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venusandmars · 16/11/2010 22:56

Hi I am venus and I am an alcoholic.

Thanks to the first thread by Jesuswhatnow I have not had a drink for a long time.

There are lots of us on here, please lurk, post, whatever does it for you. If you are worried about how much you drink and your inability to stop when you want to, then someone on here can probably understand.

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ClearAndPresent · 21/11/2010 12:04

noteven ring AA. I know nothing about detoxing, but I cannot see how advising you to drink a bottle of wine is in any way good. Ring them... i confess, I also do not know how AA works, but maybe they can send someone just to sit with you and let you talk for a bit.

notevenamousie · 21/11/2010 12:07

AMOH cross posted. I might try that. I will ring them back this afternoon. I need to try and find help. The alternative is being signed off sick so I can go to daytime ones I guess but I have already had a verbal warning at work for attendance (4 seperate days lost in a year, got to love the NHS). I am still feeling shaky but am a bit calmer.

Mouseface · 21/11/2010 12:11

noteven

No harm in ringing AA at all. Did you manage to get some more phone credit? Or could you e-mail them and ask them to call you? Smile

I would call your own GP first thing in the morning and tell the receptionist it is an emergency and you MUST see your GP today.

He/she will be able to put you in contact with CAT and give you all the available help and information that you need.

Hello Anothermumhere lovely of you to post and share your experiences.

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notevenamousie · 21/11/2010 12:16

I did, got an old phone that I can top up online (acquired when under the influence Blush ). If I gie in and drink on medical advice - surely that is so old fashioned? I felt like sobbing "please help me" but DD was there.

Am still struggling. Doing lunch and muddling through. I so want a drink and I'm determined not to but I really want one, iykwim.

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Mouseface · 21/11/2010 12:27

noteven

Please don't drink because of what that doctor said to you. I am shocked that they suggested you drink a bottle of wine today and tomorrow and then cut to glasses of wine. FGS.

Please keep going. You are doing great. Keep pottering and spending time with DD.

Don't worry about anything. Just get through the next half hour. The next ten minutes. Have some lunch.

All you need to do today is keep warm and dosed up with paracetamol. Plenty of warm drinks. And rest.

What have you got to drink in the house?

venusandmars · 21/11/2010 13:17

Hi noteven, just caught up and I see that you are still holding on. Well done. Honestly this is the worst it will be, just keep going as you did yesterday, hour by hour, and minute by minute when you have to.

What are you making for lunch? I know that lots of people recommend vitamin B (I think long term alcohol abuse depletes vitB in your body. A bowl of cereal and milk ia a good start for vitamin B1 and B2 (will post more on this shortly).

When you go to see your own doc is there anyone who can come with you to support you? If not try writing down facts about your situation, so you can be absoloutely clear with the doc. Write down how much you have been drinking. Write down that you have had flu, and write down all the symptoms you have had. Write down what you want to do i.e. STOP drinking, write down that you want support from a specialist alcohol team. Write down that you want to go to AA, but that you need support. Write down that you DO NOT want to drink (as suggested to you today). You can start writing all those things down today, and you ccan come on here and post them if it helps.

Keep going, you are doing well, you really are.

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Silver66 · 21/11/2010 13:19

Northumberland with Wasindie as our guide - fantastic

Grin xxx

Mouseface · 21/11/2010 13:25

I take Tesco's own 'Active' fizzy vits. They have mega doses of Bvits in. Smile

notevenamousie · 21/11/2010 13:27

There's nothing in the house.

I am still really panicky.
I am worried about going to A+E because of social services though, and if they tried to admit me.

DP has left me. I feel terrible.

Mouseface · 21/11/2010 13:30

You don't need to go to A&E do you? Stay warm, stay hydrated, eat and take paracetamol every four hours to help with the flu.

When did you hear from DP? Has he e-mailed you? You poor thing!!

venusandmars · 21/11/2010 13:41

Alcohol depletes stores of vitamin B in the body, so here is some stuff about vitamin B....

Vitamin B1 helps to metabolise sugar and starch to give you energy. Found in wholegrain cereals and bread.

Vitamin B2 repairs damaged proteins (muscle, skin) in your body and helps to grow hair and nails. Found in milk, cheese, yogurt, eggs.

Vitamin B3 required for sex hormones (might be the least of your problems today Smile) and reduces redness, especially in your face. Found in chicken, turkey and fish.

Vitamin B6 important for the immune system (and possibly to relieve PMS). Found in wholegrain bread and cereals, also banana, avocado and pork.

Vitamin B12 important for production of bone marrow and red blood cells. Found in meat (especially liver and kidney) and eggs.

Folic acid important in preventing tiredness. Found in green vegetables (broccoli, spinach, peas etc) and oranges.

If you have a look at the information on a pack of cereal they will often show the information. e.g. Special K has about half the daily requirement of Vit B1 B2 B6 B12 and also folic acid. So Eating a bowl of cereal with milk, followed by a sandwhich made with wholegrain bread and cheese, or an egg and some toast, or perhaps some vegetable soup will go a long way towards replacing and maintaining levels of vitamin B. Or all of the above plus a vitamin B supplement.

Not surprising that once we stop drinking and B vitamins are restored we feel as though we have more energy, our skin is better, less flushed, and out hair looks glossier Grin

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venusandmars · 21/11/2010 13:44

noteven go and look in all your cupboards and fridge and make a list of everything that is in there. Come back and tell us, perhaps we can suggest something. If not, can you get to a shop where they DO NOT sell alcohol. Buy some bread, some milk, some cereal (and maybe some chocolate).

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Silver66 · 21/11/2010 13:47

Wow - Venus are you a secret doctor??? That is good to know - I knew general stuff about booze and vit B depletion but that information is really useful - thank you Grin xxxx

venusandmars · 21/11/2010 13:47

silver the trip to Northumberland sounds lovely - just what is needed. I'll sign up for wasindie's birdwatching, followed by a warming mug of hot chocolate in a tearoom.

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dementedma · 21/11/2010 13:55

noteven, i am an expert in concocting meals out of scraps - financial necessity. Whatcha got in the cupboards girl? Any pasta? Tins of beans, sweetcorn, tuna, tomatoes? Onions? Eggs?Cheese? Can make a feast out of that lot!

Mouseface · 21/11/2010 13:59

noteven - how about trying these:

Tesco B-Active fizzy vits, 20 tablets for £1.99 have -

Vit C - 476mg = 793% RDA
Thiamin (Vit B1) - 10.4mg = 743% RDA
Riboflavin (Vit B2) - 13.6mg = 850% RDA
Niacin - 45.3mg = 252% RDA
Vit B6 - 7.1mg = 355% RDA
Folic Acid - 366mg = 183% RDA
Vit B12 - 8.6mg = 860% RDA
Biotin - 130mg = 87% RDA
Pantothentic Acid - 22.7mg = 378% RDA
Calcium - 95mg = 12% RDA
Magnesium - 95mg = 32% RDA
Zinc - 9mg = 60% RDA.

They're orange flavour but don't taste very strong. I found that they were great for hangovers when I used to drink very heavily. Very similar to Berocca but half the price.

Worth a try?

Mouseface · 21/11/2010 14:00

Hey Ma - how are you today? How is your dad?

dementedma · 21/11/2010 14:26

Hey mouse.
He's had a better weekend but is scheduled for some pretty risky surgery on Wednesday which he has had to sign an indemnity for incase it finishes him off...twould be for the best in a lot of ways although my mother is convinced nothing short of a stake through his black heart will put an end to him! He is refusing to let me take him so he can go in the ambulance and I will lurk round the corner and follow at a distance then hang out in the hospital and see what happens.
feeling rough myself as time of the month kicked in and doing the old painkillers and hot water bottle routine...
apart from that and an insensitive DH who I coudl cheerfully MURDER, I'm fine Smile

Silver66 · 21/11/2010 14:39

Hey Ma - just big (((hug))) xxxx

Mouseface · 21/11/2010 14:48

Ma - yes, I did see that you posted you may or may not kill your DH today.

I say go for it, it'll pass some time and you can use him for a draft excluder later when it get's really chilly. Then at least he'll have a useful purpose!! Wink

I guess all you can do is wait and see with your dad huh? Hard. I know what you mean though re for the best if maybe he didn't pull through.

(disclaimer - my line about ma killing her DH was meant in jest, to hopefully give her a much needed giggle. I would NEVER condone murder in case anyone is offeneded by my comment)

As you were.

notevenamousie · 21/11/2010 14:52

I will get some of those Mouse
ma that sounds stressful.
I am really wobbly in that I asked for help and didn't get any. It's so frustrating and I just really want some help.

venusandmars · 21/11/2010 14:53

Too late mouse I've already reported it to the police. I left a message that said 'do you know there's a bunch of women alkies out there planning to murder people?' I am waiting for them to ring back - how long shall I give them? Wink

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venusandmars · 21/11/2010 14:54

noteven are you still around? let us know how you are doing.

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