The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Players and Supporters Bus

[venusandmars]

Hi I am venus and I am an alcoholic.

Thanks to the first thread by Jesuswhatnow I have not had a drink for a long time.

There are lots of us on here, please lurk, post, whatever does it for you. If you are worried about how much you drink and your inability to stop when you want to, then someone on here can probably understand.

I am okay this morning. Poured myself a glass of wine last night, tookm one sip then threw it away. The self loathing that would result (for once) seemed worse than not having a glass. So, 3 winefree days for me this week- not consecutively I admit, but every small victory adds up, I hope hope hope.

I have a busy weekend coming up. seeing ILs, going to church, cleaning house for house guests. Nice to be able to start the weekend without a hangover for once. How is everyone else?

Well done clear, what a great thing to manage to do . It shows you that it CAN be done. I have found that when I've poured drink away, the smell of it going down the sink is horrible, and so horrible that just by remebering it I am not tempted at all for a couple of days.

Morning All
noteven lovely to see your 'morning'. How are you feeling today? How is DD?
Looking forward to a calm day on the bus.

It was really hard. I was thinking 'well, i've waited until 6 pm, so it is fine' but then I just thought how I would feel. A couple of times later I thought 'well, I've made it to 9 pm, so I could...' but then I stopped myself. I am really pleased with myself this morning. The wine, admittedly, was off, but that has never stopped me before, so yeah, I am hanging onto that victory today and facing the day feeling good.

Posted too soon. Meant to say also that hope everyone's day is good, and calm. noteven, come back to say hi when you can.

Morning everyone, won't be around now till Sunday evening so hope everyone has a peaceful and relaxing weekend:)

Good morning lovely ladies. Loved the post about your favourite house Venus - I'm living in such a house right now, all my own and ex-H says I'll come out of it in a coffin! Well done Clear for stopping at one and having the strength to pour away the rest. And the reward is a days sans hangover.

Today, unlike yesterday when I was horribly hungover, is going to be just grand. Parents feature in the equation too and I won't start drinking over the cooking like I usually do with my mum watching me like a hawk to gauge my intake. Hope you're OK today noteven.

Morning all.

Can I just say that we are NOT a cliquey thread but we ARE a protective one. Personal attacks will not be tolorated by anyone and I have reported the posts directly targeting Red yesterday. They are niether helpful or welcomed.

As you were.

desire - thank you for your posts last night and to BBB. I have nodded in agreement at the conversation between the two of you!

noteven - hello, hope that you and DD have something fun planned for the weekend. Is DP going to be around?

I am sans male this weekend, with TWO sick children! Argh! DH is at Twickenham watching rugby and then he's off to poison himself! I DO NOT evny his poor head tomorrow.

What are we all up to this weekend? I'm housebound and fogged in!!

I've just noticed that Creamlegbar has posted on this thread "How can i help my alcoholic drug using sister" and put in those horrid links again.

I wonder what her agenda is, she's poison.

I posted some advice/thoughts on that thread too........ and JWN did.

Can I suggest that if there is anything posted on here that is unhelpful or upsetting, we report it?

Treat it the same as trolling and do not engage?

That way, we keep any upset to a minimum.

Yes you're right Mouse, don't encourage them, best to ignore.

I agree with your sentiments, but it is so difficult on a forum because anyone who posts on here is posting from their own experience, and posts in a way which is helping them. For example fortheverylasttime posts lots of links to academic / research things, I sometimes post links to meditation stuff, whatever. Some people might find them helpful, some people might think 'what a lot of tripe' and others might be put off the whole thread because it looks like a happy clappy hippy commune .

Personally I try not to engage with or respond to people posting things that I consider to be unhelpful on the basis that it might be just what someone else needs. Being an extreme optomist, I like to imagine that everyone who is posting has some positive intention or motivation. So whilst I might post about meditation or hypnotherapy, I might also (reasonably) expect that someone might warn about the dangers (from their perspecive).

I think that reporting unhelpful posts is right mouse, but I also think that it is in the nature of the internet that some people will offer their opinions in a way which appears hurtful to others (and you see it on here occasionally in some of the other support threads, like bereavement threads or domestic violence threads).

Fortunately, the vast, vast, vast majority of these threads have been nothing but positive suggestions and encouragement. Yeah for all the Brave Babes who make it so

Signing off now for the weekend:) Heading away for the night with an old friend and even though can't really afford it, I know I need it :)

Mmmm, perhaps I should go and read the Four Agreements again. Have you come across it Venus?

I meant like yesterday's little, ahem, outburst. It was a personal attack on Red.

Sorry, my above post doesn't make that clear does it?

Everyone is entitled to post on here, of course. And as you say venus we may not all agree or even like what we read.

Doesn't mean that it's wrong or unhelpful to us all.

morning all!! sorry to hear both kids are sick mouse!, i take it dh will be next to useless tomorrow aswell while nursing his head! - fwiw, i thought my dh would need his stomach pumped the last time he went to a cricket match, he was ill for days! god knows how he would be after a rugby match!, i feel your pain!

i agree with you too about engaging with posters like CLB - her attack and presumtions about red were disgraceful and i for one wont stand for it - i have said before that i like the way we all approach getting better in such different ways - i find the fortheverylasttime has a very academic approach and likes to look for many kinds of help (im far too lazy for that! ) - i dont think she has ever said that one way was a cult or a waste of time and she has never personally attacked anyone - horses for courses is what i say!, forthe may well point someone in a direction that is perfect for them and thank god for it!

Exactly JWN.

Just because I don't go to AA doesn't make it wrong or an invalid source of help for any other poster.

And just because I can't stand 'baby cabbages' (aka sprouts) doesn't mean I stand in the veg ailse in Sainsbury's yelling at shoppers not to buy them!

Well, not all day!

Right I'm off. Hope you are all doing well, not had time to catch up as I have been packing for my night in London - wish me luck!!

Look after yourseles x x

Good luck xx

ohhh!! a night in london!! im have a good time!!

Hi Guys,

I'm off out tonight and I think I will need a couple of glasses for dutch courage. Without giving too much away in case anyone in RL is reading this, let's just say I'm gonna need LOTS of confidence tonight!

There wont be the opportunity to get rat-arsed, though, so that's good.

Ohhhh, don't know what to do!

Hi embracing are there other things that give you confidence - listening to a fantastic piece of music, remembering the day you scored a goal for the hockey team, remembering a wonderful event surrounded by family and friends. Do you have a special stone that you can keep in your pocket, or a feel-good piece of jewelry? Do you have favourite perfume / bath oil, something that you can smell to help you relax? Do you have lucky pants that you can wear?

Great that you can't get rat arsed. Have a wonderful night.

Embrace

Start with a soft drink. Really. You can.

Just see how it goes. No projecting remember? Just get to tonight and take it slowly, at your own pace.

If you drink you drink. If you don't you don't. YOU are in control of that decision. How about adding soft drinks into any boozey ones you have?

I knwo that for me, especially in the early days of my journey on the bus, I foudn the nights when I did drink and managed to drink less, I felt a huge sense of achievement.

One less drink is better than one more.

But worry about that later ok?

Hope you have a fantastic time.

I STILL can't type sober!!!!

I'm going to AA tonight. I have no more drink in the house. I suspect DP will leave me over this. I am going to get better for me.