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I love you, but I'm not in love with you!!!!

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cheeselostandconfused · 31/10/2010 20:46

Well, where do I start...? I have been with my DH since sweet sixteen, we have been together for 20 years and married 12. We have two wonderful children. My DH has been distant from me on an emotional and physical level - I put this down to the stress of the posibility of loosing his job. The job has been confirmed as secure, but he didn't come back to me (emotionally) as I had hoped. The last straw was last weekend. I asked him what was wrong and that if I didn't know what was going on in his head, I couldn't help him. He told me he was "fine". But in the evening he eventually opend up and told me he loved me as a friend (best friend), the sex is great (but it's just sex!)and that he is not in love with me. When I picked myself up off the floor, I asked him why? He said he couldn't give me any answers as he doesn't know and that his head is confused. He cried and I cried. He said he will go to counselling (on his own initially), which is hapening on Tuesday. I have already had one session and the Cousellor gave me the details of this website (so grateful to her already). We have talked and talked...DH said that there is noone else, and I believe him. He is a very honest man, and this is something I have always admired about him. I am totally, lost and confused. How do you get your DH to fall back in love with you? Please help....any advise would be greatly appreciated.

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AnyFawker · 03/11/2010 13:43

gettingeasier, PP posted that tract from some counsellor somewhere for those of us with "poor comprehension skills"

she did it as a favour, of course

I found English comprehension hard at school you see, as did pretty much everyone who disagrees with her on this thread, I expect

how funny then that she now objects to counselling terms being used here

AnyFawker · 03/11/2010 13:44

*whenallelsefailsmaketea...who the heck are ya ? Smile

purplepeony · 03/11/2010 13:56

AF I object to counselling terms being used willy-nilly by people who are not qualifed to use them.

The reason I posted the quote twice was that no one commented on it and they quickly went to the back of this thread, as it was so fast moving.

You still display very poor comprehension skills if you assume I posted that extract, which is highly relevant to this topic, because people had "poor comprehension skills".

Or maybe that's not what you meant at all, and your syntax is just all over the place.

AnyFawker · 03/11/2010 14:01

pp, you made direct reference to my "poor comprehension skills" when you posted it

AnyFawker · 03/11/2010 14:02

if your short-term memory is a problem for you, I can see how you might be confused about that

see ? I can be helpful too

dontdisstheteens · 03/11/2010 14:48

PP I think you made a good point generally. On mumsnet, as in any other meeting place, people do bandy around terms such as passive-aggressive without the qualifications to diagnose. As adults we should all understand that whilst acknowledging that they can form a very useful shorthand to convey our thoughts. But, yes to be treated with a dose of salt (mind you I would treat a diagnosis such as that with a pinch of salt whatever the source - defining these are very tricky!).

Detachment, as you have said does have two slightly different usages. As a psychological term it is recommended as a strategy for codependents (amongst others). In more common parlance it means to withdraw, to invest less in a particular thing, perhaps to be more independent.

For cheese I suspect this may be a very useful suggestion. I suspect that she has been in a a codependent relationship however, I do not actually assume that to be a bad thing at all! For many people it works and works well. Nonetheless focusing on herself as she has absolutely no 'control' over her husband can only be good. Cheese you can't make him fall in love with you, but you might be able to be the kind of supportive loving partner that he can fall back in love with - does this make the distinction clear? More to the point you will start to work out what you want and be that person.

I do think that your husband has been 'better' than many we read about here. He is perhaps (who knows, really) trying to explain that something is wrong and he is not sure what to do. I think recognizing that there is a problem and taking steps to address it (seeing a counseller - God I hope he has a good one!) is brilliant. I feel sure it indicates some hope for Cheese's family, whether they stay together or not, to continue to raise their children in a happy environment.

Like WWIFN I suspect that books are not the answer, like AF I think that Cheese needs to bring into her life things which make her happy but do not depend solely on her family.

I hope this kind of summary reflects what you have as individuals said, but also focuses back on anything that might help Cheese (who I suspect is still reading!). Cheese, I have a close friend who has been exactly where you are, her husband was depressed, missing the romance of limerance, and in reevaluating his life (MLC) thought his marriage was not good enough. They are now (probably about 15 years after the original declaration) still together, very happy and making quiet but romantic plans for retirement. If you feel it is worth hanging on in there my friend would say go for it. She did. I would say go for it, but take steps to make sure that you will be happy either way.

Don't give him forever though, at some point you will find it utterly soul destroying living with someone who says they are not sure they want to be with you. make sure you stay alert for that point.

Bloody hell what an essay - Cheese you take care of yourself. You sound bright and determined enough to be able to take what you want/need from these exchanges.

AnyFawker · 03/11/2010 15:02

You sound bright and determined enough to be able to take what you want/need from these exchanges.

Yep, that is what I thought to. In fact, it is hugely patronising to assume that any Op does not possess the emotional intelligence to do precisely that.

Cheese, if you are still around, come back and tell us how you are.

AnyFawker · 03/11/2010 15:02

too

dignified · 03/11/2010 21:40

I dont think anyone paid any attention to the qoute about stages of love because it doesnt seem to be relevant . The H in this situation has told the op that he doesnt think he ever really in love with her in the first place .

How qualified do you nee to be to use terms such as detatchment / passive aggresive ect ?

dontdisstheteens · 04/11/2010 14:19

How are you cheese?

cheeselostandconfused · 04/11/2010 18:24

Cheese is back! Wow, what a response. I really appreciate all your posts, it has taken a long time to read them all and has been extremely helpful to see how people see the situation in different perspectives.

Just to let you know that I am feeling stronger. I have decided to take control of my life and re-focus on me. My counselling is going well and my low slef-asteem (which, to be honest has been low for a long time) is high on the agenda to change. I have booked myself on a bodybootcamp course, which I am really looking forward to. This will get me out of the house, allow me to meet new people and at the same time loose a couple of pounds in the process, which will make me feel better. I have been out most nights with my friends - my social life has never been so busy! Yes, I brought a book and have only read a few pages...just using it for guidance really and will not be reading it from front to back cover in a day!!Grin DH has had his initial counselling session and I think it is going to help him sort his head out one way or another. We took the day off yesterday and had a good time. Don't really have much time at the moment to go into detail later. Am keeping my chin up and still have hope in my heart, but realistic hope now. I have a long journy of discovery ahead of me. DH and kids will be home soon, so will have to leave for now.

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AnyFawker · 04/11/2010 19:04

Cheese, we thought you had disappeared off the face of the earth Mumsnet ! Smile

I am preferring the tone of your tardy post, certainly in comparison with the worryingly-doormattish one you last wrote.

Good luck to you...and you know where we are x

dontdisstheteens · 04/11/2010 19:53

Well done you! That all sounds absolutely fantastic. Knew there as a bit (more than a bit!) of 'get up and go' in there!

Niecie · 05/11/2010 09:05

Hello Cheese. Great to see you back - I was worried that after reading this thread, you might have run screaming from your computer!

It sounds like you have had a really productive week. You have been doing a great job of balancing your own needs against working out your relationship and it is good to see that you have been building on what you said on Monday and doing even more stuff for yourself. You were never a doormat, believe me, just a woman in shock, taking stock and I am so impressed with the speed with which you have started to tackle the problem.

Are you and your husband seeing the same counsellor and do you plan to see them together at any point?

Hope you can come back soon and let us know how it is going. Smile

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 05/11/2010 10:50

I'm also really pleased that you are focusing on you Cheese and as long as the fitness regime is something you're doing to help you feel better, that's all good news. Bear in mind however, that weight and appearance are often gendered issues, so as long as this is really for you and not rooted in any beliefs that if only you were thinner/more attractive, your H would not be expressing doubts, then all power to you.

The really exciting things about your post are that you will be increasing your endorphin levels through exercise (as a runner, I can testify to the benefits) and you will be meeting new people. Good luck.

elephantsaregreen · 05/11/2010 11:11

Sounds like a really hard time.
If you google: 'he said he was leaving and she ignored him' you'll find a very interesting and well written article about how one woman waited out the midlife crisis phase. May not be what you want or are willing today, but it's a really good article and shows that sometimes things don't have to be black and white.

I really l liked wwifn's post. I don't think that relationships are perfect all the time and that often long-term relationships are only long-term because somehow people find ways to weather the storms.

cheeselostandconfused · 09/11/2010 16:14

Hi all, All seems well at the moment. Still going on date nights and having fun again. Still very early days and taking it little by little. Have signed myself up for Hula Hoop dance classes and have booked a Spa weekend with my Mum in December. Have managed to hust my back so at the moment off work on a number of drugs which are making me very tired. Not really the best timing as there is so much I want to do now I have a taste for life outside of my marriage again. Haven't cried all week and feeling strong again emotionally. DH has his first proper counselling session today, he had a choice of a mummsy, listner or challenger. He has chosen a listener which if I was asked I would have thought he would have chosen the challenger. But stil good that he is up for going. DH and I have gone back to the basics of hand holding and cuddling on the sofa. Had a great night out on Friday and tried to push it a bit too far on a sexual level, but backed off as he froze on me. DH said I was turning him on but didn't know what to do. I just gave him a kiss and said goodnight, thought it might make him think that he still wants me in that way. Nothing has happend since, but only time will tell. Not able to do much around the house of with the kids at the moment, which is really frustrating. Can't wait for my back to get better soon!! I read the article that "elephantsaregreen" suggested and found it very interesting. Thank you.

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