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(d)h threatened to hit me

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itstimmy · 10/10/2010 08:52

Yes I provoked him.

When we met he said he had threatened to hit a gf before. And he said if another lady talked to him in a provoking way he would hit her, as apparently 'women who provoke secretly want to be hit'.

There have been lots of small things over the last 7 years I have wanted to speak to him about, I have, to no avail, he will just cut me off with a threatening look or sarcasum. And there have been a number of big things over the years I have had to keep a lid on when really I wanted to go ballistic with him. This has led to me simmering with resentment and anger at him, I just want to speak out and be heard and for him to actually take some action...but I dare not for this threat.

So yesterday it was a minor incident, I have been 'needling' him about it and making a few snippy comments, and in front of dd which I'm not proud of but I can hardly tell her not to do something when her dad is...it needs both of them to stop and have spoken to both indvidually about it. And I made one last comment yesterday, I was just incredibly pissed off but could not tell him how annoyed I was due to constant threat so made a pointed 'look what has happened, don't do it to the next one' comment and he got up from table and went to other room.

About 15 min later he comes to room where I'm folding clothes and warns me that I nearly got hit. To stop provoking him or I will get hit. He was not threatening me or trying to bully me he was warning me. And that it would hurt (said that a few times) and we have two small children in the house and that he did not want to hit me but I was provoking him into it. He was v scary, as he rarely makes eye contact and he did yesterday. First I tried to put on a I'm not scared leave me alone look but he told me I was provoking him, so I told him in a calmer (upset way, I was scared) why I had done it and it was wrong to have provoked but I had done it because he has been ignoring what I've been saying and I just want him to listen to me. In the end after a few more 'warnings' I asked him to leave, so (cursing myself now) I left the room and went to bathroom (door shut) so quietly cry my heart out, then when he went out drinking last night to do it again. He has left house again for an hour now and I just want to cry again. When he's in room I just start meaningless things like stirring porridge, feel a bit shakey.

I don't know what to do now. Does this mean after 7 years he is going to start to hit me? What will count as 'provoking'? Will going out all the time be provoking as I don't want to be in the same room as him. There have been a number of incidents over the years that have made me want to leave but I think this could take the biscuit.

On another note I don't think he loves or cares for me which is probably also where the provoking comes from...

I feel humiliated and scared. Wish I could threaten to smack him one...but even if I had the advantage I would not.

I know I can be a martyr and annoying but what the hell do I do now? I cannot move on without him actually taking responsibility for his actions in the house without getting so wound up he won't listen to me and then I get wound up and want to vent but can't.

What a mess.

He's back shortly so if I go quiet its for a reason.

And I married him because he reminded me of abusive dad...

Just rechecked this...I think I can see why he wants to hit me...but I just want him to LISTEN. And the provocation is down to that...you know where you just want to go "AAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! DON'T DO THAT!!!!' and then whatever it is gets blown over, no big row, just a quick vent...imagine keeping a lid on that for 7 years...and there have been some whoppers where I wanted to just go completely wild and walk out that I've had to keep a lid on. Am excusing my behaviour now...how the hell do I get him to listen...thanks for reading so far...

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worriedwendy10 · 10/10/2010 21:39

This is what bully's do, they make you feel like its your fault, ITS NOT YOUR FAULT!! Get out now, i went through it for 4 years and now i'm living the best life ever. Its not been easy by any means but i've got my own house, a job, a car and my kids are happy! Its so scary thinking about getting out and going it alone but believe me, if i can do it anyone can. My bully did hit me not regularly but the threat was always there and thats no way to live, not for you or your kids. You deserve better and your babies deserve a hell of a lot better. Good luck to you xx

LilMsUnfortunateAxeIncident · 10/10/2010 23:39

Timmy, please come back when you can, we will hold your hand and help you day by day to get you to a position where you can prepare to free yourself.

Monday: Call women's aid, and the CAB to make an appointment.

Get all the documents together

That'll do for now. We'll help you in any and every way that we can.

TheLadyEvenstar · 11/10/2010 00:16

Timmy,
I am hoping you are ok -more than ok in fact.

Please do listen to the advice given. You need to get away and quick. You need to not only protect yourself but your DD's as well. This man...for the wany of a better word - is extremely dangerous to all of you.

Yes he has you where he wants you but now you have to get out of that position.

I don't know where you are based but I have been where you are now only in a shorter relationship of 5yrs and I know how you feel. If you need any help then please let me know and I will do all I can if you are near me.

SolidGoldBrass · 11/10/2010 00:49

Timmy: You can escape. You don't have to live with this vile,dangerous scumbag any more. Lots of women, some of whom are on this thread, have been in this situation and escaped, there is lots of support out there for you.
Best of luck.

jacksmomma · 11/10/2010 01:54

timmy you need to come back and let us know you are all ok, please leave this man asap , i know it must seem like the hardest thing in the world and its a very frightening prospect but is it not more frightening to think in the future you could be with your daughter looking at a suspicious bruise or a black eye and know that her husband is beating her just like her dad beat her mum,utilise all the support there is available to you, look to the future you could one day be on here saying how happy you are free from a life of fear, independent and giving your dc a happy childhood i really hope you get the happpy life you and your dc deserve

YeahBut · 11/10/2010 02:04

Timmy,
If you can, pack and hide a bag with essentials for you and the dc, important documents (birth certs, passports, bank details etc) and any cash you can squirrel away. If you do need to leave urgently, you'll have stuff to hand.
We can't make you leave him, you have to do it. I know it's hard when someone has been eroding your self-confidence and self-belief for years. This won't get better, though. If you stay, he'll get worse. There are lots of people out there who want to help you. Call Womens Aid.

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 08:00

he's gone to work. going to take dd1 to school as normal then gather stuff up and leave about lunchtime, say dd1 has half day and we have appt. rang mate and gf they have a room for us.

realised that if i stay its allowing him to do this. he talked to me yesterday scarily calmly and told me i had to calm down and act normal in front of kids. he said this could not go on this way and we had to sort it out, asked what was wrong, i told him i didn't feel i could say things due to threat, i think, and that i did not feel he loved or cared for me. I had to prompt at end of conversation about if he did love and care for me, he said he did and would not have had children with anyone.

should i say at this point 'but i luv 'im'...but i don't.

going to ring wa when dd1 at school

so what do i need till then? paperwork wise...how much money can i remove from joint acct anyone know?

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 08:06

what do i tell dd1? i don't know to be honest or to say we're going to stay with a mate when we never do that

don't worry about pc and phone tracks he's a technophobe...i have to turn on pc for him

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 08:09

car in his name, i'm just the minor driver mentioned on insurance, do i bother with those documents?

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itstimmy · 11/10/2010 08:14

ANYONE AROUND? please!

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mumonthenet · 11/10/2010 08:21

Hi Timmy - am just catching up on your thread

battyralphie · 11/10/2010 08:23

Statements of all joint bank accounts and any savings, any building society books etc.

do you have any joint investments ? ie unit trusts shares etc, if so you need to find and copy the latest statement of the shareholding account, or if you have certificates, the certificates themselves

Do you have any life insurance or pension plans? not sure what you would have to copy here, depends on the plan, but there is probably some sort of statement there.

secure your passport and those of the dcs if they have them.

mortgage documentation (if you have a mortgage) but not necessarily documents relating to house purchase or the deeds, if you can copy them do, but not a priority.

you need to put these copies and documents in a safe place, preferably with some cash. Can you leave them with relatives or friends, if not rent a safe box at your bank.

good luck!

insideout · 11/10/2010 08:25

i think you can take half of joint account

also take all docs like insurance if you're taking car!

everyone will be back from school run soon!
they can give better advice!

good luck

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 08:27

one joint acct
i have my own acct
no mortgage house bought
no shares
no pension
my pension from wrk is zip
goinh on sch run now

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bb99 · 11/10/2010 08:27

timmy - try to let the school know what's going on (as much as you can) so they are aware of any potential custody issues that may come up.

If you have joint custody they won't be able to stop you (D)H from collecting DD from school but they will call you if he turns up and they know what's going on.

Good luck.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 11/10/2010 08:33

Hi Timmy

I don't have the answers re: documents etc but just wanted to let you know that I'm cheering you on.

Bucharest · 11/10/2010 08:43

Good luck timmy.

Smile
battyralphie · 11/10/2010 08:45

hallo Timmy

dont forget dh's pension plan(s) if he has any private ones or through his employer as you have a right to a share of these so try to find and copy any of the latest statements

am cheering you on too!

RespectTheDoughnut · 11/10/2010 08:46

Timmy, just read this thread - I don't know anything about the practicalities that hasn't already been said, but I am sending you strength & will be thinking about you today. Please keep us informed about everything - let us know that you're safe, etc. There will always be support for you here x

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 08:50

Passports for you and DDs
Chequebooks, bank cards, bank statements
Will - if you have one
Driving Licence
Birth certificates for you and DDs
Life insurance documents
Copies of bills - council tax, utility, phone if they are in your name
Bag of toys, books for DDs
Enough clothes for a week
Numbers for doctors, dentist etc

Trying to wrack my brain if there's anything else.

You are doing the right thing. My goodness, the man is an abusive rapist.

Thinking of you.

UpSinceCrapOClock · 11/10/2010 08:54

No practical advice as no experience but also wanted to cheer you on. You sound very strong and brave - exactly like the 'take no crap' woman you said you were before you met your husband.

Good luck!

(ps, just thought of one thing if you can/have space etc. Maybe a favourite toy or something for each of your dd's? Just as extra comfort for them tonight?)

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 11/10/2010 08:55

Oh and their bedding too so they have something familiar to sleep in....

lucky1979 · 11/10/2010 09:05

Goood luck Timmy! Another one cheering you on xxxx

mumonthenet · 11/10/2010 09:05

Apart from things listed above I would say you need copies of all docs that relate to anything joint, if you can.

WRT what to tell dd. I would work on a "need to know" basis. You're going to stay with some friends for a few days. Tell her as little as possible but if she asks about Mummy and Daddy - tell her the truth but simplified.

You could say that Daddy pushed mummy and shouted at her and it's not ok for people to do that to each other. She knows some of what happened and you might find that she is much reassured by the action you are taking.

Talk to WA.

itstimmy · 11/10/2010 09:06

Passports for you and DDs
Chequebooks, bank cards, bank statements
Will - if you have one
Driving Licence
Birth certificates for you and DDs
Life insurance documents
Copies of bills - council tax, utility, phone if they are in your name
Bag of toys, books for DDs
Enough clothes for a week
Numbers for doctors, dentist etc

passport out of date for me - check
no passports for dds - check
chequebks x2 check bank cards x 2 check bank statements? why? all of them???
will none - check
driving licence - now your asking...at least h wont be able to find owt either...
life insurance - don't think we have any...i haven't arranged any h doesn't want it
birth certs for dds - check
birth cert me...- will be somewhere
copies of bills - to do all in my name
toys and books - to do
clothes to do
no for drs - check
dentist - can get

toys...my god i wish i could take all dd1s soft toys...

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