Calling all prostitutes and former prostitutes on MN, as there seem to be a few around right now...

[Aitch]

I'm curious to know how it makes you feel to see threads on here from wives and girlfriends etc when they discover that their husbands etc have been visiting prostitutes? even if you are happy in your own jobs (and i hope to god you are somehow, because the alternative is intolerable), how does it feel to be confronted with the downside of your work on these pages?

(i think it goes without saying that the men are culpable in this scenario, but am looking for some insight into how your work squares with sisterhood etc).

I will never be able to understand how a husband is happy to knowingly let his wife sleep with other men.How is there any respect between you ?

So is there no respect between a couple who are into swinging then?

It was a perfectly valid question, you've been happy to answer questions in a similarly personal vein, why the sudden sqeamishness?

Does you husband have sex with other people too?

"So is there no respect between a couple who are into swinging then?"

Not in my view, no there isn't, not much in the way of real love either.

If a marriage doesn't contain absolute fidelity, it's worthless.

We have the utmost respect for each other.
No, he doesn't have sex with anyone else.

I'm not squeamish. I've been rather put off answering questions by the insults and the fact that the majority of what I have said has been selectively quoted and/or twisted and thrown back at me.

I'm not here to change anyone's opinion of prostitution, just to possibly provide more information with which people can make their minds up. Also there are people who, regardless of whether they are pro/anti are still curious about things. I don't mind answering questions as long as they are not just a hunt for ammunition to attack me with later.

My own personal view is that no there is no respect at all.Some strange man invading the most intimate part of your body and your husband dosent mind ? I find this really hard to believe.And yes i think the same of swinging couples.

I am not going to read this thread all the way through.

My ex had loads of "encounters" with prostitutes. I never once blamed them. It didn't occur to me to.

However this "I am not doing anything wrong, just providing a service" attitude absolutely sickens me. You ought to be fucking ashamed of yourselves. That kind of attitude craps all over the women who are the wives and partners of these men. It is NOT just the men at fault here, if you think like that then you are too.

Honestly in all the years of knowing what my ex got up to I didn't feel as disturbed by it as I do having read what I have of this thread.

Your husbands ought to be ashamed of himself as well supporting what you do and enjoying the proceeds.

Mandamumu you are offended by Malicence asking you how you can be 100% sure who the fathers of your children are? Under the circumstances I think it is a valid question.

Well I am offended by you and your attempts at justifying what I consider to be the unjustifiable. I am sorry I just can't be all right on and do chit chat with The MN Working Girl. You have forced me to face up to the fact that there are actually women like you who enjoy what you do, advertise it and shag my husband for money taking money away from our children. Yes he did it and is 100% to blame but your casual and self justifying attitude and wheeling out of cliches makes me apportion at least partial blame to you.

Now I will hide the thread so don't even bother to reply to me. Just keep on servicing all those horrible husbands out there. Good Luck to you. Watch out for that karma though Mandamumu. Because I think you are in for a hefy dose one of these days.

If you're both going to tell me that there can't possibly be any respect, why bother asking me?

i did say it was my own personal view.

Oh and Dittany I think you are fucking amazing, and the reason many people have a problem with a lot of your opinions is that the Truth Often Hurts. You are rarely wrong either factually or in your opinons.

i also said i didnt understand it.I am glad i dont live in your world,your love of money is more important than the love for your children or husband it seems.

'My site was written by me, so it does reflect my personality. This is just me.'

Whether it was written by you or anyone else, or whether it reflects your personality or not, it is your 'brand'. The fact that you advertise with it separates you from the 'girls' who walk the streets, and the fact that you compare yourself directly with them expressly separates you from them too. The whole point of advertising in any way is to have your customers choose you as opposed to anyone else.

In the world of selling stuff, ketchup is ketchup is ketchup but people who fancy themselves and can afford it buy something they think is different and sets them apart, maybe something organic, or a Benedicta sauce instead...

This thread is getting vitriolic again.

We haven't said that all the men we see are poor sweet things who are suffering at home. But they are certainly not all 'rapists' or men who casually fuck over their wives and families.

I'm sure plenty of my clients are in it just for the kick and have loving wives at home. I knowingly participate in this trade with that in mind.

However I care less about my clients' wives than I do about providing a financially comfortable childhood for my child and having the flexibility of a trade that enables me to take most of the school holidays off and finish work at 3 or 4 in the afternoon. (I am a single parent, I don't receive child maintenance and I have no family within 500 miles.)

This profession has 'saved me' financially on many occasions. It regained a large amount of money that was stolen from me. It saw me through a difficult time when my child was out of school on an ad hoc basis and I needed to take time off work, randomly and unexpectedly. (I would not have been able to do that with a regular job.) We are not well off but I can afford (just) to live without debt. The job has allowed me to gift money to family when they have been in dire straits, to take my son on holiday and show him a bit of the world. All that means more to me than the wellbeing of the anonymous wife.

So shoot me.

Btw re. disease, yes I think it is fair to quote the stereotype that street prostitutes are potentially more risky partners than high end prostitutes.

She is more likely to be pimped or have a drug dependency thus to be more 'desperate' for the money and thus more likely to say yes to the dodgy character who offers extra for services performed without a condom.

Plus if she is either pimped or drug dependent she will probably have such an incredibly low sense of self worth she is more likely to agree to such offers.

If she is coerced into selling sex she might also be coerced into offering lucrative extras such as sex without protection.

A street prostitute is more likely to be the victim of rape, specifically a client forcing unprotected sex upon her.

I always use condoms and I make that clear in my advertising. However I regularly get men asking if sex without is available, how much extra would it be etc. I ignore and block them and share their details with other local WGs if possible. I'm not interested in any daft offers, my health is more important.

Again, a lot of clients choose me in part because of my standpoint on this. They deliberately avoid prostitutes who advertise unprotected services and would run a mile if a WG they were with suggested such a thing.

PS Asking Manda if she is '100% sure who the fathers of her children are' is in essence making the suggestion that she has promiscuous unprotected sex, casually has kids by strangers, and then subsequently lies to her husband about the children being his.

I think she is right to be offended.

vanilla, having kids is NOT a basic human right FFS. It's a primitive drive, but it's not a basic human right.
Regarding IVF and surrogacy, like Mal, I have very extreme views on the subject. I find the entire industry abhorrent.

sorry, you didn't say it was a basic human right

For all of you saying that sex is not a human "need", it's a "want", and quoting Maslow's hierarchy of needs.... sex is actually on the same level as "breathing" and "eating". The "higher" stuff comes after essentials are met.

Just been itching to say that. Sorry. I'll fuck off now.

sex is on the same level as breathing and eating?

YOu have lived a very sheltered life, haven't you.

A sheltered life? Surely anyone who can read a diagram can see that?

Anyone who thinks sex is a human right has never experienced hunger, starvation hunger, or torture...

People who think sex is on the same level as eating are the spoilt product of a post-industrial society

And as for "sex is on the same level as breathing". There are women with SN children who do have trouble breathing actually. Sometimes they stop breathing altogether. I think they'd probably be happy do to without sex and just settle for being able to breathe

The point, Sakura, is that when Maslow established his hierarchy of needs - not wants, or rights, needs - he put sex on the same level as breathing, and eating. He said that, as long as our lungs have oxygen, and our bellies have food, and we feel secure, the next thing we want/need to do is have sex.

Why do so many "feminidsts" deny this?

I didn't say that sex is a human right. I said it's a basic human need.

And I'm off to bed now.

I was responding to IndoorGardner's "For all of you saying that sex is not a human "need", it's a "want", and quoting Maslow's hierarchy of needs.... sex is actually on the same level as "breathing" and "eating". "

OFGS, sex comes after eating and breathing. YOU've just argued my point for me. YOu don't have sex if you can't even breathe properly or haven't eaten for a week. Because it's not as important as the other two.