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Calling all prostitutes and former prostitutes on MN, as there seem to be a few around right now...

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Aitch · 22/09/2010 15:21

I'm curious to know how it makes you feel to see threads on here from wives and girlfriends etc when they discover that their husbands etc have been visiting prostitutes? even if you are happy in your own jobs (and i hope to god you are somehow, because the alternative is intolerable), how does it feel to be confronted with the downside of your work on these pages?

(i think it goes without saying that the men are culpable in this scenario, but am looking for some insight into how your work squares with sisterhood etc).

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vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 11:43

hating feminists? didn't say anything about that. and you're the one who 'welcomed' him i just thanked him for his input. also, i think anyone from anywhere can post here! i think the use of "assorted freaks" is a bit random and unnecessary. so what if people migrate here from other sites?

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Malificence · 24/09/2010 11:48

I figured that tremendousdouchebag was in fact a MNer with an inappropriate sense of humour - if there is some sort of indious invasion going on then it's a sad day all round. Sad

I wonder if a wife would consider her marriage happy once she discovered 25 years of sexual, emotional and financial betrayal? I know I wouldn't, I'd be inside for murder.

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Malificence · 24/09/2010 11:50
  • insidious dammit.
vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 11:54

I have a totally neutral position on the matter.

Also can someone explain to me why male or female escorts/prostitutes are viewed as commodities in this industry?

I don't see why then we aren't all viewed as commodities given that a lot of us "sell out bodies" at work in some way or another. I have to sit at a desk and be nice to people I don't like etc.? That's something that has always totally confused me.

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vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 11:58

I agree that if I found out my DP had been doing that I too would be inside for murder - I would like to hear tremendoussleazebag's reasons but still I don't think his actions are justifiable. You should not make those kind of vows to someone if you don't plan on honoring them.

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vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 12:02

OK, sorry, that was out of line actually.

HA, yes, we do know more. Poor tremendoussleazebag's wife. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. I think his actions are deplorable personally.

vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 12:04

Yes but they are compensated accordingly. Ie Manda earns more in an hour than some people earn in a week!

vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 12:06

You could work for minimum wage 7 hours a day, 5 days a week taking home about £200 a week or earn that in 1 hour and do nothing for the rest of the day/week?

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vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 12:36

If she knew and was OK with it I don't think it would be a problem. BUT it's the fact that she doesn't know and if she did would have a problem with it that is deplorable!

vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 12:38

It's the fact that she's been lied to over a quarter of a century!

If Mr Tesco was fine with you buying a tin of beans from Mr Waitrose, great. But if you know that Mr Tesco would definitely NOT be OK with that but you secretly did it anyway over the course of 25 years then yes, I think that's wrong.

AnyFucker · 24/09/2010 12:44

manda

"Have you never voiced something badly and been picked up on your phrasing because it sounded wrong?"

then, like I said last night, why didn't you simply apologise there and then or at least acknowledge freely that what you said was out of line ?

what you actually did was spit your dummy out and flounce off citing that you were being name-called and bullied

jenny60 · 24/09/2010 12:55

'Morals often are relative. Remeber that many of the men have already come to the conclusion that it is already more 'moral' to have sex with a prostitute than it is to have an affair or leave their families'

Watching: it can never be moral if the wife/partner/family doesn't have a choice in this either. If these men want to go to prostitutes they should tell their wives at least and give them a choice. It's so condescending of them to decide what's best without consulting the other person in the scenario.

jenny60 · 24/09/2010 12:59

I am not a Nazi. I am not part of any mafia.

Watching: I'm happy not to mention trafficked women and even to agree that you care about them too, but I want to be clear about my wider objection: I think that what you do is harmful to ALL women. I'm not throwing anything at you here: it is just wrong to allow men to use women like pieces of meat and that's what you do.

LindenAvery · 24/09/2010 13:20

Watch....I believe I did state higher up the thread that I enjoy my job and I sometimes do do it without being paid or as part of a service to a charity. Manda then posted about her services discount and mentioned that sexual services without cash being passed over would give clients the 'wrong' idea.( ...Stange that for a prostitute to have sex without cash involved is 'making love' as Manda puts it but that a woman having 'making love' with her partner may be doing it for financial gain Confused)

What has been significant about the posts made by some of the prostitutes is the way in which their posts are almost screaming 'like me, like me I am a caring, empathic person and I do this job for the benefit of people' - this does come across as there are some self-esteem issues here or the fact that the prostitutes do recognise that there is something wrong in trading sex for money. Protesting too much?

As for distancing themselves from street workers ...again self-esteem issues.

LindenAvery · 24/09/2010 13:22

oops meant to say women having sex, 'making love'

sparky159 · 24/09/2010 13:43

MANDA-
youve mentioned in one of youre posts that if you met a man that became dodgy[sorry-i cant remember youre exact words]
you would call the police.
how would you do this if the man was strangling you-or had a knife up against youre throat?
also-what would you do if a gang of men come through youre door late at night to get youre money?
[this concerns me]

tremendousleazebag
[i give them money,they are happy]
how do you know this?
how do you know theyre not laying there and thinking"oh for gods sake hurry up?

[i am no more responsible for abused exploited women than anyone else]

you silly silly man.

youre poor wife.

youre user name is apt.

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vanillacupcakes · 24/09/2010 14:11

Where did I say sex is an interaction with no more significance than buying tea bags?

I don't think that there's something wrong with being able to purchase it. You are going on the basis that you think paying for sex is wrong.

For me the difference is whether you are in a relationship or not and your OH would not be happy about it. For you paying for sex is fundamentally wrong no matter what the circumstances it seems?

She would have a problem with it because in most relationship sex is something that you have only with each other and no one else - it's one of the things that defines a relationship (unless you have alternative arrangements, which is not the case with tremendoussleazebag).

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