Calling all prostitutes and former prostitutes on MN, as there seem to be a few around right now...

[Aitch]

I'm curious to know how it makes you feel to see threads on here from wives and girlfriends etc when they discover that their husbands etc have been visiting prostitutes? even if you are happy in your own jobs (and i hope to god you are somehow, because the alternative is intolerable), how does it feel to be confronted with the downside of your work on these pages?

(i think it goes without saying that the men are culpable in this scenario, but am looking for some insight into how your work squares with sisterhood etc).

manda...you are projecting other peoples comments onto me

I asked you a simple question "why is it so hard to apologise for a derogatory comment you made about streetwalkers" or why you couldn't just acknowledge what you said was wrong

then you give me some guff about existential apologising, refer to a blofg i have no intention of reading, then start telling me about how hard your life has been

a couple of hours ago, you were a happy hooker whose life was sorted and could spend a solid 48 hours on MN because you earned so much last week, that you could write of this week ?

what happened ?

I pull you up when you let your oh-so-careful mask slip and you crumble

poor show

I have no interest in "getting rid of you and cleaning up"...but I did want to know why you felt so entitled to be so shitty about streetwakers who "wear nylon lingerie"

i was out with a friend tonight who works with trafficked women (she is kept very busy with referrals from other organisations so let's not go into the numbers hoo-hah, she really is run off her feet). some of her stories would absolutely turn your hair white, the sheer numbers of men that women are required to see in a day or week is just sickening. of course, they are working for pimps in massage parlours etc, so not the same as you guys.

however, her colleague works more with off-street workers, and in her experience (and this would chime with research done here with street workers) there will inevitably be, somewhere in the person's life, some really shitty abuse of some description. it really doesn't sound like 'a career like any other' in that respect.

now that is not to pry into anyone's life, but it does seem like it's a job that, for the most part (not necessarily OFFS or mandamumu) chooses people, rather than the other way around.

mana...i was pulling you up on judging others, stop trying to turn it around that I am attacking you because of the way you earn a crust

read my posts to you and stop playing the poor harangued woman

your mask is slipping, hoick it back, quick

*manda

my typing is slipping, that is for sure

Amanda, you're now coming across as angry, bitter and unhinged.

And as everyone knows - including you given your nasty posts earlier - I have the monopoly on such feelings.

I was not judging others. I just didn't word it very well.

I'm tired and I've spent half the day being insulted. Excuse me for not being as able to phrase things as I normally would be.

There is no mask and I'm sick and tired of people trying to make out that I'm some evil bitch just because I can't put things into words properly late at night.

This place really is (some people excluded) a nest of vipers.

If I don't toe the party line then I must be vilified at all costs. Burn the witch eh?

Good night

Oi, Mand, borrow my hat

That's better.

and you still haven't said you regret the way you came across about women who are in the unfortunate position of having to wear nylon underwear and sell their bodies for much less than what you charge...

please don't direct me to your blog...I would rather chew off my own arm

People, Amanda Inverness has left the building.

Correction. Flounced off.

That will be 350 pounds please.

tbh i think mandamum is beign really polite under the circs.

pathetic

you prided yourself on your articulacy only yesterday, manda

add that to your silk lingerie, and you really did have it all

That's another 50p then for congeniality.

I presume the current minimum age is 18?

aitch, really ?

good night manda, it's a shame you didn't get to stick around and discuss my last post, but it's late.

actually, aitch, I would have said the same thing until about half an hour ago...

AF I have some comfy night socks on, a glass of wine and a sleeping baby next door. Surely I have it all?

yeah, really. i do see what you mean, and i do worry that this kinda 'class' thing wrt prostitution means that the vocal, internet-savvy 'fortunate' escort prostitutes are riding roughshod over what would actually be best for less fortunate, younger, more vulnerable women, which i think is 'i'm alright jack-ish' in the extreme, but i nevertheless think that she has been polite for absolutely the most part, in the face of extreme provocation.

UA...if I had gone to bed when I said I was going, I too would have it all

now I will be tired and grouchy in the morning...blast it

Ach, and there I was all ready to add a bit more to your previous post, but I see we're already in the "wrap it up comfortably for ourselves" stage that always seems to happen in these threads.

OK, goodnight.

Bollocks OFFS. Amanada decided to bugger off.

Her choice, her timing.

Those of us who have engaged with it all and missed out on some telly, are just saying a few civil goodnights.

what what? are you talking to me?

aitch, I only picked her up on that one point, which wasn't actually a value judgement on what she did

I totally get that she has had loads of vilification come her way in the last 24 hours so it may seem my refusal to let her horrible comment go unchallenged was the last straw

but I felt her haughty contempt for WG's in a "worse" (for want of a better word, am tired too) position than her, too much hypocritical bullshit to stand unchallenged

I don't use such shite derogatory language about other women...so why does she feel she is in such a priveliged position to do so because she can charge more than they do or fuck a better class of punter ?

horrible

and it would be equally horrible no matter how she earned her living

now I really am going to bed

manda buggered off for one reason only