Calling all prostitutes and former prostitutes on MN, as there seem to be a few around right now...

[Aitch]

I'm curious to know how it makes you feel to see threads on here from wives and girlfriends etc when they discover that their husbands etc have been visiting prostitutes? even if you are happy in your own jobs (and i hope to god you are somehow, because the alternative is intolerable), how does it feel to be confronted with the downside of your work on these pages?

(i think it goes without saying that the men are culpable in this scenario, but am looking for some insight into how your work squares with sisterhood etc).

"I'd rather respect their wishes."

that person is speaking for every trafficked sex worker?

ski....tell me to fuck off if you like (and you probably will) but apologising to MrsJ would be the best thing you could do this evening

or tomorrow, when your head is screwed back on straight and you have had a chance to reflect

Personally I don't want to live in a world where women's bodies are commodities to be sold to men.

I don't really give a shit about the women who consent to these transactions. The fact that they take part willingly means fuck all to me.

"You can't "forgive" someone for maybe being a rapist."

You can't assume someone's guilt based on some guesswork and a bad mood either.

Even IF he was a rapist, it wouldn't be his wife's fault. Talk about kicking someone when their down!

I think the Asian sex worker sounds despondent to put it mildly.

She doesn't have many truly self-determined 'rights' does she.

I don't think this does much to support your argument tbh

Her point is that what they want and do is better than the alternative. It's not for us to decide.

I never said it was his wife's fault he was indifferent to whether the women he fucked consented (i.e. a rapist).

I just think it is shit to stay married to someone you know could well be a rapist and who doesn't really care whether they are or not.

I only posted it because Cambodia came up in conversation.

It's a bit like when companies decide not to use cheap labour in a piss poor country. They think they're doing good, when in fact they're taking away what little income people had.

Now I've heard it all: you want the people who try to get women off the streets in Thailand to back off? They're the abusers, not the disgusting men who buy these girls and women?
Yes, you really are a feminist.

Another thing.

There is no such thing as an under age prostitute. That is just child abuse, plain and simple.

ski...you think MrsJ doesn't care ?

I take it you never read any of her threads then...

you have absolutely no right, or evidence, to make that judgement

Jenny, I wouldn't claim to know the best thing for those women. I would allow them to speak for themselves.

I didn't say she didn't care.

I said he didn't care.

Ski, you are making a huge leap with your assumptions.

ski...whatever your thoughts about a man who has done what he did (and I agree with them, btw)....to take it out on his wife is beyond the pale, IMO

and you are taking it out on her...she must feel like shit on your shoe after your comments this evening

Yes, because prostituted women in Thailand obviously speak freely? Deciding that we support that industry because the alternative is worse is just shocking. Why shouldn't that apply to child prostitutes as well; presumably some of them, and their pimps, would make the same argument. The alternative is that the sleazebags who use them should be stopped. Why the hell do you think such men go to Thailand, for the scenery?

" skidoodly Thu 23-Sep-10 22:09:01

I'm not concerned about what he has done to her, I'm concerned about what he has done to other women.

You can't "forgive" someone for maybe being a rapist.

You can only condone it."

I'd sooner condemn it, myself.

And no, ski, you are making a wild leap here.

Jenny, as I already said. There is no such thing as a child prostitute, only child abuse.

I think that all women should be given the chance to make an informed choice.

Unfortunately, in poorer countries, we may not agree with those choices. However, we are not the ones who have to live with them.

child prostitute!
oh my days
mums net has gone down the drain !

brap ity brap!

Look, I've read her threads all about how much she wants to keep her lovely life together with her charming husband. I've even posted on one of them.

I think it is appalling to stay in a relationship with someone you KNOW may have raped trafficked women.

amanda'smum, wrong.

In Thailand sex with a thirteen year old is ok under certain circumstances.

Divorce is just a trip to the local council offices.

More than one wife is no problem and as a teacher, you can have a sexual relationship with a pupil so long as it is genuine.

ExH had done his homework alright. He picked the perfect destination and the sex industry will have made him most welcome as they have thousands of perverts before him.

No wonder he packed a stack of condoms and lubricants.

Maybe the copy of The Iliad was thrown in to attract the Oxbridge backpackers.

His son was six months old when he left to 'sink himself in a seedy mire of sex' (his own words)

Not a nice job - screwing my exh - But then, someone's got to (be paid to) do it.

We can NOT force western values on to other societies - as much as it is tempting sometimes.

you KNOW may have

You see, it's the second two words I'd have a problem with, if I was going to end my primary relationship and possibly break up a family.

"May have".

Yeah, that'd be enough for me, any day.

"I think it is appalling to stay in a relationship with someone you KNOW may have raped trafficked women."

Exactly. You are making wild guesses and attacking the poor woman.

ski, no matter how you justify it, I think you have been very cruel