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FB messages between husband and his ex

117 replies

overit · 14/09/2010 08:51

I know, I know this is an all too common cliche, but I need some views as to whether I am overreacting (as my husband says I am) or if he has stepped way over the line of respect and decency.
We have an 11 week old baby, and everything has been great, after a couple of years previously of marital stress and turbulence mainly due to country relocation and work stresses. We separated for a couple of months early last year, but thought we were back on track and conceived and now have bub with work situation completely changed.
We got back home from a family holiday with his parents and I opened Facebook, his account was still open and I read the first message, it was from his ex fiance (20 years ago) when he was about 21. I knew they were facebook friends before this.
The messages from him included asking her:
'what indiscretions she had been up to lately', 'nice photo...mmmmmm' and whinging that he was tired because of the baby.
Her replies included that she would love to see a photo and asking if he was going to be in a particular country for work during certain dates, as she was going there on holiday.
Previous messages from her when he told everyone I was pregnant include:'I understand if you don't feel comfortable chatting anymore'.
I went off my brain, he said that he talked to her via messages about our marriage problems etc, but doesn't see anything wrong with what he has written then or recently.
I see this as an act of disloyality to our marriage, a breech of trust and an emotional affair, he says I am a drama queen and he wouldn't care what I wrote to ex boyfriends etc.,
I have no problem with him talking to a male friend or a platonic female friend about us, but I do have a big problem with this covert and flirty talk, am I being a drama queen?
This blew up 10 days ago, I have held it together but told him we need to talk, when I raised it this morning about talking about it, he said he saw no need to talk about it and that I was just picking a sore to cause drama.

OP posts:
michelle0302 · 14/09/2010 15:05

Thanks AF, its still raw at the minute I thought after 9 years together I knew him inside out, it turns out that he is a compulsive liar.

Now hes trying to overcompensate with our 6 year old daughter by spoiling her and telling her stuff, she is telling me she hates me because I am not Daddy's friend.

I just have to try and reassure her that we are friends and that I love her very much but its really hard. At least he's moved out to his mums for the time being to give us some breathing space.

perfumedlife · 14/09/2010 16:17

Oh michelle Sad

PosieParker · 14/09/2010 16:41

MN never ceases to amaze me.

michelle and gb, that's really shit.Sad

BarmyArmy · 14/09/2010 16:50

Isn't this woman married though? She's got a divorce coming through, yes...but she is married?

If so, then he wasn't lying about this, no?

I've skim-read most of this and have some sympathy for the OP, not least because I fear her every action is serving to push her husband yet further away.

If you (OP) 'ban' him from seeing this woman when they are in the same country then he may well do so to spite you.

Hard though it may be, I think it's better to keep an eye on this from a distance - getting over-wrought over this or that snippet merely gets you worked up and your husband convinced that you are paranoid/jealous/a nutter.

AnyFucker · 14/09/2010 18:56

sterling advice, BA (not)

if my husband ever did anything that I had made clear was going to hurt me out of spite, then call me a jealous paranoid nutter, he would no longer be my husband

OmicronPersei8 · 14/09/2010 19:03

Asking a partner to cease such stupid and disrespectful behaviour is not jealous, paranoid or crazy. I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask your DH to a) respect your feelings and b) cease contact with an ex. If they are an ex they are not the priority, you are. An ex is not just any friend.

Stopping contact with the ex is the first step for the DH in regaining the OP's trust.

overit · 15/09/2010 06:05

BarmyArmy, are you my MIL????
She has been completely separated for 3 years, bought new house with settlement etc, her divorce on paper is coming through any day, as she let my husband know with a big smiley face next to it. This was after she said that her husband had never been more than a friend and father to her children, not like the grand love affair.
Life is too short or too long to sit on the sidelines meekly and not 'cause a scene'. I don't want our bub :o daughter growing up thinking that's the way to go through life.
We had a very big, open and long talk last night, husband has agreed to sever all contact with her and to let her know why, cc'ing me. He has also agreed to counselling to address the fundamental differences we have in regards to this type of thing and I have made it clear I am quite capable of living by myself if anything like this happens again.
I have asked that the energy amd time he puts into these conversations be put into our relationship to make it stronger.
MIL is trying to be happy, but I can't deal with her at this point.
Thank you all for your help yesterday - I was at my wit's end. Onwards and Upwards....

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 15/09/2010 06:35

So pleased you managed to talk last night. Things certainly do sound more positive.

My dad had am emotional affair with a family friend via emails and texts. It nearly derailed my parents' marriage, but now they are stronger than ever.

I hope he keeps to his word. It's such a breach of trust to be chatting about any of that with his ex, or his mother.

overit · 15/09/2010 06:38

Thanks Chocolate, we will see. I still feel pretty wiped out by it all and explained to him I can't just bounce back to normalcy straight away. He goes away for a week for work on Saturday and in a way, it will be good, he can have a think, and so can I, but nothing's been left to fester unsaid.

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AnyFucker · 15/09/2010 07:16

good news, overit

I am glad you stated your case so clearly

He knows now exactly where he stands, yes ?

overit · 15/09/2010 07:24

Yep, AF - he knows that this was last straw, that I am still hurt and that we have some work to do, and if it happens again it's all over on my side.
I think he was actually shit scared last night and has realised the hurt he has caused.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 15/09/2010 07:24

good

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 15/09/2010 10:59

That's really good overit. I hope he gets it.

And just be on your guard, and look after yourself and the little busy-wubsy-wibbly-bambam first.

:o

overit · 15/09/2010 11:12

haha - last night in the middle of it all, he said something about 'bub' and I smiled! haha!!!

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 15/09/2010 11:20

What a great outcome - you get a guarantee that your husband will not be running around with this errant floosy lady, and we get one more convert to the anti-"bub" cause. :o

2rebecca · 15/09/2010 11:29

Agree not over-reacting. Being open about casual chat to ex who is mid divorce is one thing. Giving her details about your marriage, sex life, admiring her photo, not saying she is separated and divorcing when asked and wanting to meet up all sound wrong.
Involving his mother in it also very wrong.

perfumedlife · 15/09/2010 11:53

Excellent result overit. I really hope he does keep his word.

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