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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Next Stop Sobriety!

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Mouseface · 24/08/2010 14:27

Hello, welcome to thread number six!! Smile

I'm Mouse and, thanks to these threads, I quit the booze on August 2nd 2010.

This truly is a fantastic source of support for anyone who wants it! Full of real, honest, everyday people who are all at different stages of quitting the booze, cutting down or being long term sober.

There are no judgmental 'know-it-alls' here, whatever your circumstances, you will be supported all the way.

Come and meet the rest of The Brave Babes........

And, as before, here are the previous five threads for those who would like to see how this all began.

JWN's original thread (the reason we are all here)

Thread two

Thread three

Thread four

Thread five

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desiretochange · 01/09/2010 16:49

Am grand, just working my way through the steps as outlined by Miflaw, starting with acceptance:)

desiretochange · 01/09/2010 16:58

I understand that Miflaw, just find your wording a little less daunting!

MIFLAW · 01/09/2010 17:03

Pleased to hear they are useful.

Seeing as they are the same Steps, be aware that advice varies but that they are not intended to be rushed - they typically take years, and are never finished anyway, you just get weller and weller (not a real word but you know what I mean.)

jesuswhatnext · 01/09/2010 18:26

tada!!! im home!!! Grin

hello lovley babes!!!, just caught up with the posts - miflaw Shock 'weller and weller', (she said with a snort!) this is not the standard of english i expect from you! Grin

glad littlegee and medium mouse are ok! hope tinymouse has a better night!

i have had a brilliant 24 hours, done some really good schmoozing, had dinner at Rules, the cocktail guy did me a wonderful fruit cocktail full of fresh blackberrys, blueberrys, raspberrys, mint and spring water - was absolutly delicious!!

had a good morning meeting, then!

went to selfridges, got a beeeeautiful pair of shoes for party saturday night (sort of nude satin with ribbons, rhinestones and 5 inch heels!! YUM)

then had lunch at fortnums, lovley food - NO BOOZE!!! Grin no booze on train either!!

i feel immensely proud of myself!!, a fwe months ago i would have done the above and spoilt it all by getting totally pissed Blush, today, i am sober and ENJOYING LIFE!!!! HOORAY FOR LIFE!!! Grin

I BLOODY LOVE ALL OF YOU!!!!

MIFLAW · 01/09/2010 18:57

"miflaw 'weller and weller', (she said with a snort!) this is not the standard of english i expect from you!"

I know - it's consorting with all these bloody alcoholics that's done it.

Lucilastic · 01/09/2010 21:19

Jesus, you give me hope. I am 41 and my daughters are both under 4.
If I'm honest, pissing up/missing the best years of their childhoods is the best incentive to sober up.

Fortheverylasttime · 01/09/2010 22:48

I know! I know! Mrs Gee, you should order TWO reward charts, one for the reluctant pooer, and one for you.

Mouse is right that you should ignore mil and do it all your way. I am so impressed that you survived the w/e without a drink.

There is a study from Harvard Medical School (I could find it if you want me to, but can't be bothered if not) that found that the most significant factor in successfully stopping drinking is 'spousal support', which you do have, don't you?

Lucilastic · 01/09/2010 23:18

I don't. DP will not accept I have a problem. I imagine this is because I don't wake up and start necking vodka with breakfast.
Am going to lurk and take comfort from those of you who are stronger than I am.
Hope to join you one day. Sad

Fortheverylasttime · 01/09/2010 23:52

Luci, that's why I didn't mention it earlier, in case someone didn't have it. Sorry.

feedtheyakandhewillscore · 02/09/2010 07:29

Hiya everyone!

Sorry been so busy in work but no drinking!

So here is to day 4!

MsGee · 02/09/2010 08:09

Morning all,

JWN, fabulous positive post! It's no wonder you feel so proud, it's incredible how life has changed in a few months!

Forthe - great idea! I'm such a geek I'd probably love it Smile And yes, DH is very supportive.

Luci - it's taken me stopping drinking properly to get DH support. Initially he was very sceptical because he's heard it all before. I'd also not really told him the extent of the problem so he always told me to just cut down a bit. However now he is very supportive and is beginning to see the benefits for the family (he was amazed that I'd actually bought some food this week for a start).

Hope you all have lovely days. DD in nursery today because of day missed for bank hols, so I'm working and need to clean the house! At mo we are still eating brekkie and watching Peppa Pig. Late start as madam was up for chunk of the night having a strop.

maddogsandenglishmen · 02/09/2010 08:19

Hi everyone! I have SO much work to do, argh! But feeling great today, I love Autumn and today is Day 28, so almost 4 weeks.

All our Ikea furniture arrived yesterday and my dh has been an absolute star putting it together with the help of dd - he's very patient!

JWN you are fab! that is a wonderful post and I'm so glad your trip went so well. Shoes sound gorgeous Envy

Have to run!!! Sorry!

jesuswhatnext · 02/09/2010 09:06

morning all!!

luci - i really feel for you!, the thing is, i think you would really love to be sober and i feel you need to really lay it on the line to your dh!, to me, this is what marriage/partnerships are all about, support, love, help and encouragement. you want something very badly, its a sane request!, just tell him how much you need him to support you on this, surely he will understand - it could be that he dosnet want to admit to himself that you have a problem, that can be a scary thought, he may simply not know how to help and be scared witless by it all - maybe have a long chat and then send him on here - i know my dh would be happy to help him if he can!

feed, well done on day 4!

msgee, hope you have a 'serene' morning while your little darling is at nursery! Grin

and now maddogs!!!, well my word!! 4 weeks!!, you are a star!!!! and goodness me, you sound like a new woman!!!, i am thrilled to see you doing so well - it is lovley to hear of your progress, i am now looking forward to your baby coming!, it will be the third birth this thread will celebrate!!!, you are a wonderful woman and a super mummy!! Grin

ChristianaTheSeventh · 02/09/2010 09:59

Morning everyone, sounds like you are all doing very well.

I have an interview at 2pm with another company, bit nervous. Would help a lot if DD2 would SLEEP. DH being brilliant but still I just need a full night. It's SO hard when you don't have sleep isn't it.

JWN sounds like you had a great day out.

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venusandmars · 02/09/2010 10:07

hello all,

JWN, what a great post! I remember on one of the threads when we were all admitting to our drinking on the train habits, now when I get on a train I think what a pisshead I must have been Sad usually when I though i was being adult and sophisticated and in control.

Lucil, does your dp drink a lot as well? For some people a change in their partner's habits can show up their own drinking patterns. Either that or your dp may just not understand the 'alcoholic mind'. I find that lots of people who are not alcoholic may find they are drinking too much so they simply cut down, and they simply cannot understand that I cannot do the same. They think that because they can do it then alcohol is not that addictive. Either that or they think that if I am addicted to alcohol then I would also be addicted to other things.

For me, personally (and I totally accept that other people have a different view) there is some interaction between alcohol and my brain, so that I am always chasing after that elusive 'high'. The one I imagine I had when I first felt slightly tipsy. I am not sure that the high I imagine was ever reality, but it doesn't stop me chasing after it. When I am drinking I sometimes think I get an 'echo' of the imaginary high with my first drink, so then I want more, and more and more of that, and have another drink and another and another. Of course my rational, sober mind knows that even if that hit does happen, it is a fleeting moment, and is never there as I drink more and more. At that stage all I get is fuzzy, and slurry, and befuddled. Then I think I confuse those pissed, not in control feelings with what I was looking for initially (I know that if I were really looking for that fuzzy-headed, slightly dizzy feeling then I could get that easily by being sleep deprived, or perhaps even hung over, and I also know that being pissed is not what got a 'grip' on me in the beginning).

I have no idea whether that makes sense to any of you, and I have no idea whether it is similar to the mind of other alcoholics, but for me it helps to explain the utter madness that is alcoholism for me.

I am trying to notice other things that do give me a high, things like an awesome amazing sunset, or laughing with a friend till I'm crying, or really, really loud fireworks, or drumming, or the tiny instant just before orgasm when I know for certain that it is about to happen even if there was a nuclear war, or the day I got my best job ever and danced around the living room punching the air, or the smell of a wonderful rose.... And I find that the less I drink, then less my brain is depressed and the more I can notice the other things that delight me and leave my senses reeling. It's a wonderful life.

venusandmars · 02/09/2010 10:09

Good luck Christi. You are a clever, talented woman, and you KNOW you can deliver what they need.

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MIFLAW · 02/09/2010 10:22

Luci

You could wait for a long time for your husband to come on board with this one.

You're just going to have to do it for yourself.

Exactly like I did and exactly like loads of other people do.

your husband can join in with the applause at a later date.

ChristianaTheSeventh · 02/09/2010 10:26

Venus thank you Smile

maddogsandenglishmen · 02/09/2010 10:28

JWN Thanks for saying such lovely things Blush I feel like a new woman and we're really starting to look forward to the birth as well.

WasIndie I guess I will be longing for more than 3 hours sleep at night too, soon enough. I actually quite enjoyed those nighttime hours with my dd, but I think compared to some she was a very easy baby (and certainly much easier than twins!!)

Luci regarding partners - one very important thing I learned when suffering from an ED was that my dh was NEVER going to "get it". He couldn't, no one could. And as long as I was waiting for him to get it, or to "get" me, I was wasting time and delaying my recovery. I was waiting to be rescued and it was never going to happen. Once I accepted that he couldn't understand, I was able to accept his love, tell him what I needed and recover FOR MYSELF. A non-alcoholic brain can never understand an alcoholic brain and it's pointless to wait for that to happen. Don't wait, just begin. Does that make sense?

Christi Loads of luck with your interview. Hope this one goes really well.

Venus yay for non-alcoholic highs!

MsGee hope you manage to get lots done today.

Mouseface · 02/09/2010 10:32

Luci

My Dh still isn't on board.

He still thinks that I am blowing this up to be a huge deal.

As others have said. You have to do this for YOU.

I wonder if your DH is like mine, prehaps aware that he himself drinks far too much and really doesn't like the idea of it being made 'real' by you wanting to stop?

Morning everyone!

Christi - GOOD LUCK!!

Hydrotherapy for me today and then posh dinner guests. Joy. I was making cheesecake at 10pm last night and cleaning the toilet after that. What a glamourous life I have. Grin

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ChristianaTheSeventh · 02/09/2010 10:32

Venus it's down to you that they are even seeing me, I'm sure, they liked my CV!

Hard to know what to prepare when I don't know exactly the role- am meeting head of HR - any tips?

Also, I wanted to say Venus, I think you are SO good at writing, you manage to capture the moments and feelings that we all share in a beautiful way. Have you thought about maybe writing a blog or even a book about your experiences?

WasIndie DD2 has started amazing random wakeup-squirm-scream thing. Exhausting. But you have TWO little babies - much harder I should think. These things will pass though.

ChristianaTheSeventh · 02/09/2010 10:33

THanks for the good luck wished Mouse and MAddogs