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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Next Stop Sobriety!

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Mouseface · 24/08/2010 14:27

Hello, welcome to thread number six!! Smile

I'm Mouse and, thanks to these threads, I quit the booze on August 2nd 2010.

This truly is a fantastic source of support for anyone who wants it! Full of real, honest, everyday people who are all at different stages of quitting the booze, cutting down or being long term sober.

There are no judgmental 'know-it-alls' here, whatever your circumstances, you will be supported all the way.

Come and meet the rest of The Brave Babes........

And, as before, here are the previous five threads for those who would like to see how this all began.

JWN's original thread (the reason we are all here)

Thread two

Thread three

Thread four

Thread five

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MsGee · 26/08/2010 11:27

Wasindie ... glad to know that I am not the only self employed person struggling to focus today. So far I have eaten cake, done one piece of work and chatted to my mum about washing machines.

Not very productive.

And its raining here and my office is very cold.

MsGee · 26/08/2010 11:33

x posted Mouse, glad you got to lie in, hope tinymouse ok.

hope the hydro session helps

jesuswhatnext · 26/08/2010 11:36

well girls - i am off into town with dd! Grin, we are both having hair done, some lunch together and a bit of shopping!! lovely, lovely, (oops, now i sound like brucie Blush) then she is off out with a fella for a drink (i like this one, very arty, dresses like a pirate!)

see you later!!

BE GOOD!!!

L XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 11:40

That sounds lovely JWN, have fun!

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Mouseface · 26/08/2010 11:44

JWN - if you mean he dresses like Cap'in Jack Sparrow, then he is mine I tell you!!!!

Ahhhhh Mr Depp. Lush. Well, he is in the Pirate films.

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venusandmars · 26/08/2010 11:47

I am self employed too McGee. I am still indulging my cold though so not working terribly hard, and definitely not talking to anyone on the phone - they wouldn't recognise my voice!

Maddogs, my dd was a december baby, and wierdly it made that Christmas seem very special when all the world was celebrating the birth of a child

Mouse, I don't think I deserve any congratulations for staying sober while I was away, the place I was did not have any alcohol! but it did feel good not to be gagging for one when I got home (a drink that is Wink)

RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 11:49

There is defo something about Jack Sparrow... not sure what though! That must have been a surprise for you wasindie Grin

RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 11:50

Wink and Blush to venus, ha ha!

desiretochange · 26/08/2010 11:54

Morning everyone :)

RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 11:57

Good morning desire! How are you doing today?

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desiretochange · 26/08/2010 12:05

Morning Red . . All ok with me. You?

MsGee · 26/08/2010 12:19

I go away for an hour and you are all getting mushy over Jack Sparrow... honestly.

I was a December baby and therefore can confirm that they are great Grin. I always thought that Xmas trees were specially for me!

Wasindie if I have to spend another winter here I am def getting a halogen heater (thanks for the tip). However, fingers crossed, I will be moving house in a month or so, and hope that my new office / study will be cosy warm. I'll also have a view of the street (rather than a wall) so can nosy on my new neighbours.

Right, - self employed ladies on the bus, must focus on those billable hours!

maddogsandenglishmen · 26/08/2010 12:25

I'm a December baby too! and I love it, everyone is in a relaxed party mood with decorations up everywhere. Am hoping baby comes a little early as I don't want to be in hospital for my birthday!

I seem to remember that JWN shares my birthday?

Anyway, get on with your work everyone!

MsGee · 26/08/2010 12:37

Mine is mid Dec ... could it be the same date?

maddogsandenglishmen · 26/08/2010 12:39

Mine's 16th MsGee

RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 12:48

Mine is in January - 6th actually - so I might not be a Dec baby but definitely a winter one!

RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 12:49

I am good thanks desire! What are your plans today?

MsGee · 26/08/2010 12:55

Mine is the 17th ... I was late to the party!

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RedMoomin · 26/08/2010 13:27

Is it your job to write poems wasindie?! Love them Grin

MIFLAW · 26/08/2010 13:28

"AA meeting.
Everyone has some coffee and is very nice to each other.
The meeting starts with aa literature being read out, central to which is the fact that everyone is powerless over alcohol.
Then one person 'shares'. This means they talk about their drinking and how aa was the thing that saved their life. This is absolutely obligatory, the bit about aa saving their life.
Then everyone has a chance to say something, usually about how brave the speaker was and about aa has saved their life.
It ends with more aa literature.

The literature available in aa meetings is exclusively aa-approved literature.

I would advise you to research aa via google. For example, google, how effective is 12 step treatment, or how effective is aa. Be aware that you will only hear good things about aa, AT aa. You will only get aa approved literature or theories at aa. Research it in the same way that you would if you were choosing a school or buying shares. It is called due diligence."

Forthe

You have successfully managed to write a piece that is not factually inaccurate but is far from unbiased. Are you a journalist?

I think that what you leave unsaid is as important as what you say, so I am going to attempt to plug the gaps for anyone who does not have your (or my) experience and wisdom (...) and would like to know more about AA.

It is mainly true that "The literature available in aa meetings is exclusively aa-approved literature" although some groups sell Hazledene literature as well. But I am curious as to why you would expect it to be otherwise - after all, it's an AA group, not Waterstones. Would you expect to be able to buy the Koran at a church or a book about the British Legion from the WI?

"Be aware that you will only hear good things about aa, AT aa." Same - people go to AA and keep going back to AA because it works for them. It is therefore obvious that, by and large, they will have positive things to say. It hardly points to a conspiracy or Omerta, does it? However, I regularly hear people criticise AA, AA members, and AA meetings at AA. They are never shouted down or asked to leave.

It is important to say, too, that most of us never wanted to be in AA. We go and stay, not only because it works for us, but because we have tried, and failed, to find anything else that works for us. Often, AA was our last resort when the only altrnatives seemed to be insanity or death. We are happy to be there, all right - but we probably wouldn't hang around church halls drinking piss-poor tea if we had a better idea.

You should interpret any statistics about AA and its success in this light. By its own admission, AA sees more people die than it sees get well. But, while you're googling those success rates, google the success rates of the alternatives, especially of doing nothing.

The fact is that alcoholism is a nasty illness (recognised as such by the BMA and WHO) that, left to its own devices, kills in the messiest of ways, dragging a lot of innocent bystanders in its wake. AA works for some. If AA isn't for you, fine - but I strongly recommend anyone who thinks along those lines to make sure they have a better idea before turning their back on AA.

Incidentally, what's in it for you to knock it, Forthe? Didn't work for you, maybe? Still miserable and struggling?

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