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Stressedmummy is back on line at last!!!

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stressedmummy · 25/08/2005 14:12

Thank goodness!
We have had loads of problems connecting back up to the internet & H was having a few little tantrums about it this morning, but I am now back!
He was not as cross as he could have been regarding the wine, because I think I have got rid of most of the stain. I am now banned from drinking red wine in the lounge!

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stressedmummy · 24/09/2005 19:25

Have CAT you loobie!
H announced this morning, that he wants to sell our house, even though we have not been here long.
I asked him why & he said that it is miserable here & that he doesn't want to come home to it.
I asked if it was the house, or me, that was making him feel like this & he said "Both."
He said that we have not exactually had happy times here, so the house has to go!
He also said that I was not the same person that I used to be.
I told him that he could not blame miserable times on the house & that moving would not solve anything.
He is not happy, because he now has a miserable wife & at the moment I don't know how to make this any different.
I cannot act all happy & cheerful, when things are like this at home.
Clearly, neither of us are happy & there seems only 1 way to go to change that.

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tribpot · 24/09/2005 20:10

Excuse my French, SM, but he's quite the little mindfker isn't he? Suddenly he's refocused the discussions on the house and how he isn't happy. No doubt further probing would reveal the reason he isn't happy with the house is because you have failed to keep it pristine to the point of sterile, all your fault, etc. etc.

Incidentally, if you haven't read it, Ruby Wax's autobiography How Do You Want Me? might make compelling reading, her parents were abusive and doolally about neatness to the point of obsession as well.

He isn't happy because you are miserable. Which translates as, he's not happy because you are now standing up to him instead of cowering in a corner and agreeing with everything he says. I forsee his unhappiness increasing as time goes on. How can you change that? Well, it depends. Do you want to make him happy, or do you want to make yourself happy? If the former, you should go back to the way things were. If the latter, you should leave him. Sorry to put it so bluntly, that's only my view of course.

But more the point, how do you make your children happy? I feel this man has blighted their existence, and made them afraid to be children, much as he has made you afraid to be anything other than some 1950s stereotype of a wife he has learnt from his parents. I bet in 1950s stereotype land, children were pristine at all times and never made a mess anywhere either.

As you say, you're not happy, he's not happy, but you can choose a better future.

stressedmummy · 24/09/2005 20:29

I think you are right in saying that he is not happy, because I am standing up to him now.
He keeps saying things like "You are not the same person, anymore."
I agree that I am not the same person, but that is because I am much wiser & not prepared to put up with all this now.
He does mess with my mind & get me feeling like it is all my fault etc.
He would rather blame the house for this misery, than face facts & accept some blame himself.
I cannot go back to how I was, as I have moved way too far now.
I will aim towards the other option!

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stressedmummy · 24/09/2005 20:55

Don't think he is in a great mood, so I am keeping out of the way!
Just nipped up to see him in the lounge & saw he had a drink in his hand.
I asked if it was his first drink of the night & he said "You might keep count of how many drinks you have, but don't try it with me!"
I was only asking, to try & make conversation!
I said something earlier about his aftershave & his response was "Don't worry, I'm not going to shag you!"
I wasn't saying he was!!!
Think it is best that I stay out of his way, as he is obviously wound up with me!

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tribpot · 24/09/2005 21:06

I think you know, now, SM, that you don't want to live your life dictated by his moods. He of course does want you to, but that isn't your fault.

Surely your opening gambit, seeing him drinking in the lounge, should have been "BE CAREFUL YOU DON'T SPILL ANYTHING"

stressedmummy · 24/09/2005 21:12

Ohhhh, imagine how that would have gone down!!!!
True though!

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shhhh · 24/09/2005 23:03

Hi sm! Just reading over the last week of events....BTW dd is 19weeks...
Oh my god, I can't believe how your mum was about the "wine" issue. TBH she should have kept quiet about it as she should have known bringing it up in conversation would cause some sort of argument! It sounds though that your dad is on your side but doesn't want to get involved. I know its hard for parents to stay out of arguments esp when their ds or dd is involved & I totally understand him not saying anything to H...The fact that your dad gave you a hug the next day is maybe his way of telling you things will be ok and that he supports you..? What do you think..??
DH & I split about 5 years ago (we were only bf&gf then) It happened just after our house was put up for sale as dh saw it as an opportunity to walk away from me. My dad never got involved with my relationship with dh but when I moved back home he took me aside hugged me and told me he was there for me. He didn;t say much,but then again he didn't need to..this said it all.BTW my dad is a man of very very few words but what he does say is worth listening to.Sounds similar to how your dad was..??? I know that when dh & I split my parents were 150% behind me, even when dh & I got back together again they were still behind me 150%.
If I was you I would be happy about the house going on the market as personally I think this is your chance to get the f@@@ out (excuse my language)..what more of an opportunity do you need.? You have tried to make it work and it isn't.

LOl at H comments about his aftershave & "Don't worry, I'm not going to shag you!" ....My reply would have been "don't worry honey, I wouldn't shag you if looked like david beckham" (or your choice of chap!!) Also I would have said that I wasn't saying how nice his aftershave was but more to the point that I was commenting as I could smell somthing similar to SHIT!!!! Wondering if it was him or if he had troden in something!

Grrrrrrr..!

brownbunny · 25/09/2005 16:22

Right stressedmummy i've finally joined you fellow mums netters! I've read your thread and it makes me feel sad that you felt you couldn't tell all to me. What kind of friend can i be if i don't know everything that's going on. I'll do anything to help you and your boys just talk to me!You don't need to keep things secret and I'll do anything to help you with any decisions you make. Lets get pissed fri and you can tell all! xxx

Tessiebear · 25/09/2005 17:29

SM - sorry i havnt been around much - have had a busy week and havnt been on the internet at all!!!!
This "selling the house" bussiness is a threat if you ask me. He thinks that by saying this that you will be so worried and sooo not want it to happen that you will start to "CONFORM" more.
He has NO intention of selling the house after all the money he has invested in it - he just wants to rattle you and make you feel that you are not secure in your own home. He thinks that this will weaken you. He has obviously noticed the new and stronger you - and it makes him feel out of control. Threats are his only weapon.
Stay strong. (Bless your dad giving you a hug, he understands more than you think)XXX

spangles · 25/09/2005 18:28

I totally agree with tessiebear.. he is trying to manipulate you into behaving in the way he wants you to behave. He wouldnt know what the hell to do if you saw a solicitor and enquired about selling the house. Call the bastards bluff.

brownbunny · 25/09/2005 19:38

Agree with spangles and tessiebear! You are stronger than you think, do something to wake him up and get him to sort his life out! You are not the same person anymore that he still thinks you are.Keep up the good work things will go the way they are meant to go eventually! Every one is with you!

shhhh · 25/09/2005 21:01

Hope all is ok sm as you haven't posted today.....Brownbunny is right..we are all behind you 100%, it's nice to see so many friends even ones you are yet to meet!

dinosaur · 25/09/2005 22:46

Whew! So, more mindgames from your H. Selling the house indeed, you've only been there a wee while.

Hope everything's okay this evening.

brownbunny, do you and tessiebear know each other as well?

stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 07:33

Sorry I couldn't get on yesterday, I was out all day & by the time I got in, had too many drinks inside me to post anything that made sense!!!
I know who you are now brownbunny! Glad to see you are now signed up!
You know most things, BB, I don't talk about all of it, because I don't want to scare friends away from visiting me!
Tess only knows, because she worked it out & is obviously a very regular mn'er.
Yes Tess & brownbunny do know each other! They are both friends of mine!
Yesterday was not too bad, as we were out for most of the day, but I did have a panic when he asked if he had any clean jeans before we left.
I couldn't find any, even though I had pretty much cleaned out the washing basket & my Mum & sister gave me a look, as if to say "You are in trouble!"
Thankfully, I found some in my wardrobe!
LOL at your comment about the sex remark, shhhh!
He said that, because he's got one on, due to not having sex for ages!
He mentioned selling the house to my Mum yesterday & she was pretty startled by this!
As you all say, he probably won't do it yet!
Must get on with my morning rush now. Will post later.
BB, I know I can trust you (I did tell you what my stressed name was), but promise me you won't tell anyone, including your dh, about any of this.

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stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 07:40

BTW, my Mum did bring me some red wine back from France!

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dinosaur · 26/09/2005 14:28

Hi stressedmummy. Glad to hear you got your red wine. Hope you get peace to enjoy it!

Bugsy2 · 26/09/2005 14:33

Glad to hear your are doing ok SM and that you have got supportive friends looking out for you.
Controlling, manipulative men like to change the rules of the game all the time. It shows how little he values your opinion that he didn't even consult you about moving - just announced that he wanted to sell the house, as though you were a lodger!!!!
Of course you are not the person he married. He has worn you down into a ball of nerves, terrified he may not have clean jeans.
Feel so angry for you. GRRRRRRR

stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 16:50

I will have to drink it in the kitchen, dino!
He is on nights tonight!
Loobie, my msn is up & running again!

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stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 16:52

I don't get consulted about lots of things, Bugsy!

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dinosaur · 26/09/2005 16:56

It must be very unsettling for the DSs as well.

stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 16:59

It is, dinosaur.
Yesterday, ds1 was in trouble for playing with his thunderbirds rocket on the breakfast bar.
H is worried that he may scratch it!

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stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 17:02

H took his rocket away from him & put it in a cupboard for the rest of the morning.

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brownbunny · 26/09/2005 19:27

Hi there SM! You know i won't say anything to anyone inc my DH. should have said you were alone could have helped you drink some of that red wine!!! Enjoy the peace and quiet! or come and chat on MN!

stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 19:38

Trying to be good tonight BB, after polishing off the majority of a bottle of bacardi yesterday!
He is working nights every night, except Thursday night.
Let me know if you are free one of them!
It is ok though, Friday night is covered!

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stressedmummy · 26/09/2005 19:45

I have a couple of boxes of white wine too!

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