Archers thread #165: Bridge over troubled waters! Discuss The Archers here.

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With Jenny gone, it's harder to tie the Aldridges to the Archers, but both Tony and Lillian could have been interesting this week. And I'm sure Peggy and Jill would have had something to say.

It's notable, in fact, that Alice is the only part-Archer to be centrally involved in all this. A Grundy, an ex-Archer spouse, and then a load of 'random' villagers who have no core ties to the Archer family.

A Grundy, an ex-Archer spouse and the stepdaughter of a Brookfield Archer.

But not a word from the mother ship.

That's true, I always forget about Fallon's link to the Archers, but I guess it seems a bit tenuous since she didn't become an Archer stepdaughter until she was already an adult, it's not as though she grew up with Kenton as a stepdad.

Luckily for her she was probably fairly old (IIRC) when she got the homophobic criminal Sid as a stepdad too. She must have been at least late teens by the time they got together?

Early to mid teens? I seem to recall her mortified complaint to Jolene (when they moved into The Bull) that she could hear her mother and Sid through the wall at night …

For gods sake Alistair, if you’re going to have an affair with a married woman, you need to do better than that! Especially in the face of Paul’s needling ways.

I think George was telling the truth about only having one drink. It had to be something he didn’t like so it could be left in the car! It also explains why he left the party early - he’s definitely the type to feel like he has to be pissed to enjoy himself.

We only have George's word that his phone is broken. Isn't the location tracking stored in the cloud?

On an Android phone Google maps stores your daily activities to your Google account - assuming that it's set to do so. The phone will upload it to the account and the information can be accessed from any browser by logging into your Google account. If the phone is destroyed or so damaged that it won't upload, the data to that point is still saved in your Google account.

I've no idea if it can be deleted from your Google account as I've never tried to as I find it a very useful source of information for myself if I want to check what I did/ where I've been. I've no idea if Apple has a similar function.

I know Shula is widely disliked on these threads, but I like her.

Me too, @Fink , but then I’m not averse to Helen either which I know marks me out as an oddity in these parts

Hello all
I am a long time member of this thread but havent been here for aaaages (2017 ish) and have name changed.
I have been really behind and caught up last night on all the events...and came straight here to check out all the theories...

Checking in

also checking in and -knew- there was a reason such a meal was made about the purchase of the fruit cider.

Checking in. Thanks for the new thread Gasp.
Paul should have joined the Police what with the 20 questions he is so annoying, Mick was quick jumping in though, seems like everybody condones a bit on the side. Nice one Denise letting Alistair do all the lying, she really dosnt care about him.
Why would Chris not say he will have Martha instead of Alice saying she is not fit to look after her. Would you let a lasp alcoholic look after your 3 year old. What with all the pussy footing around Alice anyway, he dosnt know it wasnt her driving he knew how reckless and a horrible drunk she was. Its only us, dear listeners, that know the truth.

Has the fruit cider been mentioned by someone? Have I missed something?

Alice mentioned it to Chris saying it was found in her car and Chris said it wasnt like her to drink it and she said yes it was, meaning that she would drink anything alcohol.

I wish Alistair and Denise had thought this through a bit more. Even saying they had gone out for a drink. They are longstanding colleagues after all.

Thanks. I must have blanked out Alice's whining self pity. I don't like Alice. I really don't care if she's been set up for the accident. She's a horrible person.

Has anyone asked why George was in the car with Alice?

I dont think anybody knows George was in the car with Alice.

I was out last night so have only just listened to it. A lot going on there.

I had hoped Denise would catch a chill and shuffle off, but don't like the sound of her throwing up. If you know what I mean. I fear Fallon and the inappropriate doctor was a red herring, and Denise is going to be our surprise pregnancy - I've no idea what age she's supposed to be, but if mid-40s it's possible. Which will startle Paul, since he knows his dad was with him in the Caribbean, and that combined with his eagerness to keep the practice paperwork straight is going to make him feel horribly betrayed by Denise, Alastair AND Mick - I wasn't wild about Mick's readiness to provide collaborative lies,.

Chris will be the one to clear Alice (how? will the blood tests show that she didn't drink all the vodka? Joy will be able to explain the cider, at least) and implicate George, with deepening Grundy / Carter angst..

Denise can’t be pregnant by Alastair though

No, I don’t think they’ve had chance to consummate their relationship yet..

I thought they'd had a moment of ghastliness at the surgery? Don't tell me it's still all lingering glances and sighs.

That was just a snog

ffs!

Though maybe that raises the hope that the river disease will indeed prove fatal. We have been told there's a lot of water pollution, so it would be topical.

will the blood tests show that she didn't drink all the vodka?

What good would that do? Probably better if her BAC is in the unconsciousness zone than just ‘normal’ raging pissed. (‘Better’ from the point of view of wanting George up to his neck in shit, that is)

Paul needs holding under the Am until the bubbles stop.