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Ruairi without the fada is a legitimate alternative spelling in England; and Ruairi lives in England and probably has enough trouble with computers and his name without any added ones.

Even in Eire I gather it may be difficult to get the HSE or a bank to include the fada in someone's name: it may confuse their computers, or so they claim. Why they have not programmed the computers to accept the fada as important (which it is, since it changes the meanings of words) is anyone's guess. But the silliness has the sanction of Ireland’s Data Protection Commission, or it had last time I looked. What they do about the accent acute, who knows... We seem to manage to have that in people's names in England, even in computers. And as for the diaeresis, Gawdelpusall, especially those of us called Zoë.

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime , not all of us are in England. Ruairi's mother was Irish. She named him, so probably would have used the fada.

BBC does use a fada, for example, Archive on 4 - Sinéad O'Connor - A Life in Ten Songs - BBC Sounds, and it has the diaeresis,
BBC Sounds - The YUNGBLUD Podcast, Anaïs Gallagher

Re accents, I have an accent on my name. Someone in the marketing department in my office, who of course displays his pronouns in his emails, produced a tender document omitting it. I revised it and pointed out the correct spelling.

The response was 'ooh I don"t know how to add it"

Fgs (a) I'm his employer (b) my name is correctly spelt on the website and (c) if you work in marketing shouldn't you know how to add accents? and (d) my accent is as important to me as his pronous will be to him.

Did you recruit him/her/them?

No. I wasn't involved in hiring him. Head of marketing would have done it.

Ruairi is in England and has lived there since he was four; before that he was in Germany where they also don't use the fada much (or at all?). Yes, the BBC are able to use the fada – and for Ruairi's name they don't do so. It therefore seems likely that they do not intend his name to be spelt with one.

not all of us are in England. Ruairi's mother was Irish. She named him, so probably would have used the fada.

@WhoppingBigBackside , I took @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime ’s underlining of ‘in England’ to be an acknowledgement of precisely that.
Me, I think he had no fada merely to underline his bastard status . And I would have binned spare mousie.

Wasn't it Mausie? Are we allowed to say the b word these days?

The BBC spelt it Mousey, or rather, Keri Davies did.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thearchers/2011/09/mousey_-_and_the_archers_archi.html

I seem to recall Jennydarling saying it was a German cartoon character.

I have a fada in my name and live in Ireland and I've given up insisting on it for official documents because of the 'computer says no' thing. Shameful but practical.

Yes, that was what I meant. I can easily understand someone who, like Ruairi, lives in England, having given up on using the fada (if he'd ever had one, which as far as we know he never did) because it had to be explained and fought for every single damn time he gave his name to anyone for anything. Life is too short.

I speak as someone who had a "difficult" married name which had to be spelled out every time we gave it, and was there one day when my ex-husband had an epiphany: he was reserving a table for a family meal and the chap at the restaurant asked "how do you spell that, sir?" and he found himself replying "spell it however you like so long as you know it's for me when we arrive for the meal."

Arf! A friend of mine has a long-ish surname which begins with an Ø and when reserving a table he always calls himself "Mr Hill".

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime , I think that it's quite possible that his name was registered as Ruairi Donovan, so his name would technically be Ruairi even if his mother used a fada.

I think he was registered in England before Siobhán (to whom I give the fada because she came from Dublin and was presumably registered there; the BBC don't seem to have done in the cast-lists, though) left Ambridge to go to wherever it was she went when she had failed to make Brian leave his wife and marriage.

I have a bad feeling that Neil is going to get injured.

Bleurgh! At least it wasn't Deni-stare.
R4, please, if you have to do that sort of thing, stick to a giggle in the hayloft.

Clive's charm offensive is going splendidly.

Isn't it just....

It might work better if he had any, or were able to be even remotely consistent.

Yes, Kate's arrival was well-timed and Joy's immediate acceptance of her version of events (with no "Oh, but pet, are you sure? He seems like such a nice man!" nonsense) was welcome confirmation that she's probably got a back-story.

Suspicions are aroused for Joy

Could this be when the fruit cider penny finally drops?

Seems tough luck for Clive actor that he still doesn't turn up in the credits. Surely they've noticed that it's no longer a mystery?