Archers thread #164: AmbridgEnders! An Everyday Story of Soapy Folk. Discuss The Archers here.

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Thread thrown together in great haste in advance of tonight's episode. Who's in the Am? Is it George's fault? Is this the end for Alice? Over to you!

I agree with you, but the SW may not.
Or maybe she was already pregnant but miscarried because of the shock and Harrison takes the law into his own hands in revenge.

If they’d swerved sideways to get back on their side of the road the headlights wouldn’t be blocking the view.

Thanks! So I don't definitely remember little.

Well this is the most exciting archers SL for a while and I have no one else to discuss it with so thank you all!

sw may even be forgiven for the rob nonsense and the unbelievable henry

I think it was 'nifty little' so I wasn't picturing a big Volvo or anything like that.

Indeed!

Just remembered that in the episode earlier this week when George treated Emma and Will to dinner, he was boasting about his new phone and Will said something like “I wouldn’t know what to do with a phone like that, I haven’t even worked out how to pick up messages on my one” Hmmm.

Hate to sound morbid but secondary drowning is a thing so there’s no guarantee yet that Fallon, Joy and Mick are actually ok.

Why didn’t A&D go for dinner at the posh hotel? Plus Joy mentioned Denise bought an expensive bottle of wine for the ‘friend’ she was spending the evening with so it’s baffling that they chose to go to a restaurant at all, I assumed they’d be heading straight for their room!

Plot device required Alastair and Denise to be there so their affair becomes public.

For the moment plot device didn't specifically require Fallon, Joy and Mick to be the victims.

Just remembered that in the episode earlier this week when George treated Emma and Will to dinner, he was boasting about his new phone and Will said something like “I wouldn’t know what to do with a phone like that, I haven’t even worked out how to pick up messages on my one” Hmmm.

Good shout! If George remembers that and he can get to Will’s phone in time, he could easily delete it.

Just remembered that in the episode earlier this week when George treated Emma and Will to dinner, he was boasting about his new phone and Will said something like “I wouldn’t know what to do with a phone like that, I haven’t even worked out how to pick up messages on my one” Hmmm. I heard that too . As if Will was in his 80s not a young man. I can see the relevance now you point it out.

Will Joy (assuming she isn't crippled for life) blame herself because she sold Alice all that vodka?

It’s night time. You can’t see anything beyond the headlights. - ah, sorry @BrightYellowDaffodil, that kills that.

George is a revolting misogynistic scrote interested only in his own welfare. So why do I want him to come out OK from this? Is it because I want him to be the agent in his own downfall?

Yes. Without question.

So… to summarise the predictions:
Joy in a coma which leads to outing of her secret past
Alice faces the blame, loses custody
Fallon suffers PTSD and Harrison seeks revenge
Will has to lie for George?
The truth will out — so in the end George will face the music/be forced to — but by then it might be too late for Alice?

Sounds about right. I'm very worried that this is going to have a terrible effect on Brian, my favourite character by a country mile.

Seen on TwiXter:

COME ON JOY, THINK OF SHOWADDYWADDY!

Yes but this is The Archer's, we don't need to worry about logical details like headlight glare 😉

Re Mick driving Joy & Fallon, Joy specifically told someone (it might even have been Fallon) that Mick didn’t like the kind of music the band played but had promised to drop her off and pick her up.

Although George is to blame, there are worse things that could happen to Alice than taking the blame for this. It is one hell of a wake up call.

My final prediction: George will be seriously injured while engaged in tree surgery and as he lies dying in his orange Ultimate Arboriculture fleece he will confess all.

You could nearly hear Denise salivating over Alistair in his wet clothes...

I wonder what Denise's cover story was.

I agree that someone of Will’s age would know how to read/listen to messages on his phone. I’d imagine he has a fairly basic smartphone. But…plot device.

I wonder if George left a WhatsApp voice note rather than voicemail. There is an option “Delete for Everyone” on WhatsApp and that will remove the message from Will’s chat box as long as the message hasn’t been delivered yet (single grey tick). So if Wills phone was switched off or the connection in the cottage isn’t great George may be in luck…

🤔What's Ruairi got to do with it? He hasn't been mentioned as coming home, has he? Except jokingly when Brian and Miranda were talking about whether they were going to be swamped by any more of the children. I don't think Brian is actually expecting him.

Yes a voice note would be more age appropriate!