Archers thread #148: Unseasonably, it's panto time in Ambridge. He's behind you, Pat! BANG. Discuss the Archers here.

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Will Rob return, or are they playing with us? Will Pat run amok with her shotgun and wipe out half the village? (We can but hope ...) Will Oliver come to his senses and turf the Grundy clan out of Grange Farm? So many questions, so much time.

Over to you!

I can match that with having been a picnic table away from the actress who plays Debbie (well before her face was familiar, her voice was unmistakable)... and the actress who played Siobhan once liked one of my tweets... All I need to have achieved a lifetime summit of Archers fame by association is to meet Brian IRL.

P.s. I'm sure I was on these threads from day 1, but have changed name so many times it's impossible to say.

P.p.s. Jolene and her faux sexy voice is up there with Lillian's faux laugh (cackle) with top annoyances when listening to TA.

@justagirlfromedgware oh I don't know. I think David's talking with his mouth full voice is a contender for most annoying!

Surely not more annoying than Beth’s weary slow drawl?

Or Helen's ingenue voice. Yep there's a lot of competition out there!

True, but then that'd account for half of Radio 4's output these days.

Pat always sounds as though she's talking round a mouthful of cake. It drives me batty. I loathe the Jolene character, she's so - overdone. Same with Lilian.

I think Susan is most likely to do the oath/pledge thing. Jim? not sure, i have him as a closet republican.

Jim was quite open about his republicanism tonight. Not in the closet at all.

They really redressed the balance between the coronation and eurovision today. With a bit of the history of television thrown in,a theme continued after the programme by Mark Steele

I can only access via Spotify so i get the eps a day later. Hadn't heard Jim when i wrote that 😁

You know him so well! 😁

IIRC, there have been numerous times in the past when it was revealed that Lilian basically doesn't have a clue about anything Justin does professionally. Mainly because he has been very secretive and patronising about any interest she shows.

As for him not knowing about her Eurovision interest, I don't know. I've never got the impression they talk much about anything. But I've stopped paying attention to Justin anyway: I won't bang on about it at length again as I have already done so on previous threads, but his level of wealth, personal involvement in his own businesses, and skulduggery have all frequently changed to suit SL needs. He just isn't believable as a character because he changes so much.

Singing. Bling. Voting. That's the sum total of my Eurovision knowledge!

Um, I was answering "who is Ambridge is most/least likely to do the pledge of allegiance to King Charles MHLF".

Someone has now told me that at some point during the coronation service we are all expected to tell our televisions we are devoted monarchists who want King Charles to live forever. How he or anyone else is to know we did or did not do so is anybody's guess, and it's a hideous thing for us to be expected to say in any case.

"All:God save King Charles.
Long live King Charles.
May The King live for ever."

indicates that whoever is responsible for this rubbish is incredibly stupid. Also very cruel: I cannot think of a worse thing to wish on anybody than to live forever. (Also has not read That Hideous Strength. Maybe it is the same person who called the health bods the N.I.C.E.)

We're 'invited' to join in not 'expected' to. I won't be doing it anyway.

Ah! Crossed wires there. That's what we're being asked to say, though. Here it is:

All who so desire, in the Abbey, and elsewhere, say together: I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God.

Followed by:
A fanfare is played.Archbishop of Canterbury:God save The King.All:God save King Charles.Long live King Charles.May The King live for ever.

I won't be swearing an oath, not least because I'm an atheist. I will be watching, though, with great enjoyment, from the comfort of my sofa. I am the only person I know who is enthusiastic about the Coronation. It's very kind of the BBC and the government to pay this enormous sum of money to keep me amused next Saturday.

The Church of England has the order of service online. Weird, weird, weird, but right up my street. https://www.churchofengland.org/coronation/liturgy

I’ll be watching. I loves me a bit of pomp and circumstance.

Have we been told that it will be shown in The Bull on their Big Screen? I get the feeling that we have. What I wonder is who will be there, and whether the bar without the screen will be more or less crowded than the one with it.

(Since it's on a Saturday we shall probably never know.)

Not heard it mentioned. Like you say, Saturdays don’t happen in Ambridge.

Latest episode felt very explain-y which made me quite grumpy. Til I realised that I liked being reminded that the Star twins are 8 months old, Jim's a die-hard republican and that Helen's afraid of being alone in her own home. So, useful really. .

say what????
they're expecting us to say 'may the king live for ever' ???
that's all kinds of crazy
surely that's kind of blasphemous?

Maybe it means the concept of the king (?) Like 'The King is dead, long live the King' as one follows the other. No idea really I'm just musing.

I am on holiday in Iceland. Today, we did Golden Circle tour, which is basically the very touristy bit everyone does from Reykjavik.

We stopped at a dairy farm which sells ice cream. You could see the cows through a glass window, then I turned round and at the other side of the building, I realised there was a glass window through which you could see someone doing some dairying. I think they were probably making ice cream. I didn't ask, because I was a bit excited to discover that dairies really can have windows to show what's going on. And also, I don't speak Icelandic, though most people speak English anyway.

Yes, @CaptainMyCaptain , I recently came across the Latin legal phrase for it - rex numquam moritur https://quote.org/quote/the-king-never-dies-rex-nunquam-moritur-608926

So I guess it is just a recognition that the King (or Queen) lives on forever, it's just the individual carrying that title who can change.

There was a time when saying anything that suggested the king’s life might terminate laid you open to charges of treason. In that climate, wishing he’d merely live a long life might be considered dangerous