🧚‍♀️ Archers thread #120: Magic time. Dialogue! Good Fairy Lilian made Lynda’s wish come true. Will Phil vanish in a puff of smoke? Join the Magic Circle in Alice’s shed, where time is never called!

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Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you think we should hear more about the Naughty Milkman, or other unusual views.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3853783--The-Archers-spoilers-thread-5-Cant-wait-for-7-02pm-Join-us-here, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

For newer listeners, lurkers or those who just have no idea what we're talking about, @DadDadDad has created this useful thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3557323-For-Archers-fans-a-guide-to-acronyms-on-the-long-running-discussion-threads-and-any-other-meta-thread-questions-you-may-have - BOOP point for him! (See thread for explanation.)

Thanks to @Roysnewshirt for the excellent title suggestion, which I tweaked a bit.

I wonder how much dialogue we're going to get in the coming weeks. They're back to normal recording, I believe, albeit socially distanced. Also, when will we get our Friday and Sunday episodes back? I know I'm not the only regular to miss TA a lot more on Friday than on Sunday. The Sunday episode is still an incomer, of course, having only been introduced some 20 years ago, of course.

(My parents retired to a village and some features of Ambridge life are very familiar from their experience, the 'incomer' label being one.)

Aha! Thanks.

That title link reminds me how we have been cheated of the Tracy/Oliver relationship - anticipation of which was giving me life.

@MikeUniformMike

Speaking of interns, what happened to Alex Friend?

I think it shows how stressful university life is just now for us staff that I had no idea who Alex Friend was! Anyway, I've checked and they are fine. Finished their degree and working for a charity.

Never mind Philip disappearing in a puff of smoke, it seems I have.

I had a thread in AIBU under a name change and it seems that the thread and my account has gone.

You know who I am.

Their degree?

Interesting legacy ...

I wonder which Ambridge resident might be most keen to alter their pronouns. One of the Button girls perhaps. Or the long disappeared tree surgeon Jamie. Someone peripheral, anyway.

Isn't there a boy Button? The girls are Molly and Tilly, but I seem to think there was a Billy Button too.

He was called Angus Shrimpton, MUM. He came on Boxing Day, a typical day for the pub in the way of custom, stayed for less than an hour, and uttered his diktats. Which imbecile Lilian took as gospel because he had redecorated Justin's club and been recommended by Justin, and Jolene used as a way to be unpleasant to Kenton as usual.

Thanks Asking, I knew it started with an A.
I need a new username. Thought this one up in a hurry.

The boy Button was indeed Billy; he was at nursery with Henry, which gives us his age.

We were told in August 2012 that Molly Button was 11 with a birthday later in the year, so that gives her age; there was a cousin called Stephen who was the same age as Ruairi.

Mr Button was named at one point as Terry, though a Russell Button was mentioned on air in 2016 and I thought that was Molly's father.

Billy Button is too young to take up a starring role ...

In other news - have you been away for long, ILoveShula?

No, I started a thread in AIBU this morning about something that happened to me yesterday and used a new name. I forgot to mention the name change, and presumably due to what was in my posts, I was assumed to be a troll.

Are you MUM?

I hope that if you write at once to Mumsnet HQ they might accept what happened!

I'll stay mum about who I am.

I hadn't really thought that my thread would be dodgy.

What is the relationship between Jill Archer and Peggy Archer?

Is it DIL/MIL?

How is she 90?

They're sisters in law. Jill was married to Phil Archer; Peggy was married to his brother Jack Archer. Christine Barford is another Archer sibling. (There are various family trees loitering in the Internet - take your pick.)

Interesting episode. If we get a Detectorists / Archers mash-up I may actually die of happiness.

loitering on not in ...

Thanks Persephone.

Not sure how I have managed to listen for so long without understanding that.

I always thought they were different generations...

Guess who's back.

I think that Jill is a bit younger but her children are younger than Peggy's.
Elizardbreath is about the same age as Adam, I think

I did as you suggested Asking

Interestingly the BBC Archers' site calls Jill, Peggy's "friend" - which is a totally inadequate way of denoting their lifelong family relationship.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/5J6kJ02x6KR2jxrTx2VPk7T/peggy-woolley

I suppose for each of them, the other's husband was the actual in-law, but they're definitely faaaaaamly.

It also lists Christine as a former SIL.
As Peggy was widowed, surely she is still a SIL.

I remember being at reading 'Linda McCartney, Paul's ex-wife'.

Peggy born 13/11/24
Jill born 3/10/30

Jennifer born 7/1/45, Lilian 8/7/47, Tony 16/2/51

Adam, Jennifer's first child, born 27/6/67
Elizabeth, Jill's last child, born 21/4/67

Welcome back, MUM!

Thanks.

Now I am confused. Are you MUM or ILS? Or is that two different people?

Lots of people love Shula.
I think that ILoveShula would probably mention that she can't stand Pip.