The Archers #110: Game(keeping)'s up for Will. Game on for Lillian & Vince, Tracy & Oliver? Game over for Joe? Stay ahead of the game with all things Archers here.

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Thanks to LillianGish for the title idea. Very tempted to go with MrsGrindah's suggestion of It’s all a bit crap and boring at the moment but let's be positive, maybe things will look up in the coming days ... Also very taken with Lexi's Midnight Runners - Burpers, maybe? - from Madcats.

Not at all happy about Lily not going to university. Yet another bright Ambridge woman not fulfilling her potential. Why do they do this?

We didn't know we were born, with William Smethurst and The Beetle (VW, can't remember what her initials stand for - is it Vanessa Whitburn?)

Pity Feedback is so toothless.

Yes, Vanessa Whitburn. She killed Nigel. Huge mistake.

Completely agree about the Killing of Nigel. Was that before or after Norman Painting's demise, I can't remember?

Oh FFS! Pip and Hannah

Why do I keep listening?

What's the betting we're in for a 'gay pig' storyline? Poor old Basil.

LSWs clearly only know one Bulgarian dish. Lexi has been heard making banitsa at least 3 times and never (as far as I can remember) anything else. They could at least branch out to baklava or something.

Oh, Brian!

I have missed a few episodes - did anyone give Jenny a dressing gown for her behaviour at the hospital?

• a dressing DOWN!!

Bloody autocorrect

Give poor old Basil a couple of boars to get jiggy with. I'm sure he'd be much happier

Before. Feb 2010 Phil died, several months after Norman Painting died. Jan 2011 Nigel killed off.

Norman painting died on 29th October 2009; Nigel was killed off on 2nd January 2011.

WheresThatCatGoneNow, she got neither. She got humoured by Brian, Ian and Helen tried to hide from her then humoured her, and off-air Adam, Kate, and Alice have all met with her and we haven't heard of any dressings down or gowns. The only sign that anyone other than Brian has noticed her complete departure from the real world was tonight when Ed mentioned what Susan had said.

Which seems to indicate that Susan is talking to him in spite of "what he has done to My Emma" and keeping her snidery and snipery for Clarrie. Which is strange.

I note also that Hannah thinks George is Ed's son.

I thought I noted a slight hesitation in Ed where he thought about correcting her and then decided it was too complicated. Which I thought was probably realistic.

The SWs must have been delighted to get the weather forecast right for once. Heavy rain in Ambridge, floods across many parts of England.

The SWs must have been delighted to get the weather forecast right for once. Heavy rain in Ambridge, floods across many parts of England.
Yeah, except that we've had lots of heavy downpours since Easter so I don't know why the guttering was only a problem now.
Besides which: Neil is not a six-month-procrastinator. Another personality transplant.

A dressing gown for Jenny sounds just right, preferably with the cord tied really tightly round her neck. Brian was so awful today too - so tactless. Good for Lexi in her response.

I don't have a cord and i wouldn't strangle my wonderful owner

Which seems to indicate that Susan is talking to him in spite of "what he has done to My Emma"

My mistake, Ed said it was Clarrie who'd said Jennifer 'wasn't herself', not Susan.

No indication that there's been any thawing of relations between Grundy and Carter clans. Maybe Joe's death will do it.

She's only in her 60's, isn't she?

She is 65. I'm 60. I assumed until I looked it up that she was much older than me.

I can understand her role-differentiated marriage, from what I've seen of my rural relatives, but I can't imagine her feeling it was her ordained role

Oh I don't know. Read any thread here about useless partners and read the gazillion replies telling the OP its either her fault, his mother's fault or some evolutionary deficit. This renders men incapable of reading the instructions on a washing machine or remembering family birthdays but makes them perfect for putting up shelves so we should be grateful.

Considering a sizeable number of these posters seem to be young enough to be one of my DC I find that profoundly depressing.

I'm surprised Neil hasn't suggested trying Basil with a nice chilli.

Basil will be finding himself in a chilli if he doesn't pull his finger out

er... his finger?!

Ugh!