The Archers #110: Game(keeping)'s up for Will. Game on for Lillian & Vince, Tracy & Oliver? Game over for Joe? Stay ahead of the game with all things Archers here.

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Thanks to LillianGish for the title idea. Very tempted to go with MrsGrindah's suggestion of It’s all a bit crap and boring at the moment but let's be positive, maybe things will look up in the coming days ... Also very taken with Lexi's Midnight Runners - Burpers, maybe? - from Madcats.

Not at all happy about Lily not going to university. Yet another bright Ambridge woman not fulfilling her potential. Why do they do this?

I think there is no anonymity anymore and a child can find the parent (egg donor or sperm donor) at the age of 18.

Neil’s the latest for a personality transplant.

Mind you it’s good to see Justin getting back to his old personality again..,,

Ah we’re back to Justin, CEO of a mega company, micro-managing the employees at one of his tiny businesses. Since when would the pig(wo)man be able to call up the CEO on his mobile for a rant about her manager, whilst simultaneously dropping herself in it regarding going up a ladder, no H&S etc.

C8 I don't think Hannah and Ed would be more than a sex thing but it's almost a dead cert that Hannah will go for him since he is supposed to be a bit of a hottie.

I suspect (and the 🔮 concurs) that Justin will sack Neeyull (or make it impossible for him to continue) and Neil and Rex will go into business together.

Xander wouldn't find Lexi through a DNA test, as he's not her biological child.

Thanks Tas What happens if the child is desperate to find his biological mother before the age of 18?

8Tonnere* I wasn't suggesting he might want to find Lexi (though he might of course).

Well of course he will be able to find Lexi. Ian and Adam are best friends with her, surely those bonds of friendship will never be broken.

Bloody Hannah! She just gets my back up

What is her problem?

Time to stop listening I think. So much inconsistency in many of the characters.

I've met some outstandingly rude bullies in my time, but I have never met anyone as consistently, overtly aggressive and belittling towards their boss as Hannah is. I find it literally incredible that Neil wouldn't have fired her a very long time ago. Come on, scriptwriters.

As I understand the surrogacy laws, Xander's initial birth registration won't be deleted, it will be annotated to record the new parent(s). Therefore if he wanted to find Lexi (and she had mysteriously stopped being besties with Adam and Ian), her name would still be on his birth record.

Lexi will be named as the mother on the birth certificate Thunder

Neil can't just fire Hannah; he has to go through the proper procedure. He could do it because of her deliberate disregard for the laws about health and safety at work, which would be a suspension offence at least -- you cannot have employees on the premises who wilfully break the law and refuse to obey a direct order to stop doing so.

He certainly ought to issue her with a written warning, though. If she breaks her silly neck doing something illegal and stupid against his direct order, he is the one who will be in trouble at a tribunal. Like David when Jethro refused to wear his protective helmet when felling timber in spite of everything David could say, and was killed by a falling branch hitting him on the head.

But she is not his employee, so any firing would have to be done by her boss, which presumably is the ever hands-on Justin, who has no business outside Ambridge any more.

Hannah is ridiculous. No one ever has been so unrelentingly foul and yet still employed and tolerated.

I am obviously am not listening properly as I thought I heard Ed say that someone was gay and bi.

Couldn’t Neil fire Hannah for gross misconduct- thereby freeing up a job for Ed?

So Ed is looking for a house-share.

It will be with Hannah

Could we all complain to the BBC about TA.Would they fob us all off or would they change it?

I had to switch off after Jennifer's rant on Monday. Someone tag me when they've stopped talking about Lexi as if she was a test tube. We're adopters so it's way too close to home.

Just found this on Twitter. Have any of you seen it? So funny

Have a look!

Bit clearer pictures! Sorry the others were a bit fuzzy

And what about the bloody Gills? What’s happening there?

Good point Bertrand, and yet another instance of how the SWs have completely lost their way. Presumably the Gills don't shop, don't talk to anyone in Ambridge, the absence of which would be a topic of conversation in itself.

Don't these people even have a spreadsheet to show how often any character has popped up in the narrative?

Last time someone mentioned Home Farm House it was to say that the Gills had let it to a yobbish family called the Wards. Am I the only person to hear this ? Did I Imagine it?

I know I didn't because we had friends called Ward. So I must have taken note of that name.