Discuss The Archers #107: Beware of the Dragon! Peggy's in her den awaiting bids - who gets the hoard and who gets flamed?

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Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads and @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you'd like to be Susan's best friend or other unusual views.

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Thanks to @MrsGrindah for inspiration for the title of this thread. I was hoping to find a way to combine it with @C8H10N4O2's inspired suggestion of '"The Assumption of the Ambridge Angel' and @chemenger's comment 'I hope she gets kicked in the head by a horse and wakes up an atheist', but it all got a bit too lengthy.

Odds on Joe shuffling off this mortal coil before this thread ends? We've been marking/anticipating his passing for a while now.

Yeah, no I meant that they could have done the sepsis awareness now instead of then (I know it was Sepsis Awareness week or something when Nic died but, whatever, awareness is an ongoing thing).

And I am not saying that Nic’s death didn’t move the plot on. I just, personally, didn’t like it, nor do I enjoy the drama from the ongoing fallout. I am too sensitive for soap operas, clearly, breaks my heart thinking of the motherless children stuck with their awful Dad.

Dad/Step Dad.

Andrew sounds dull but not particularly awful.

We've discussed Andrew before. He has had a personality transplant since the beginning of Nic's relationship with Will, when he was depicted as a loser who did nothing for his kids, gave no financial support, and was borderline abusive to Nic. Later he appeared to morph, with the help of his new partner, into a perfectly unassuming, normal, dad.

AA Yes but Nic's children do have a good hands on granny. Even Will has admitted that and is allowing Poppy to stay with her sometimes.

I know what you mean about the sensitivity, I hate too much bleedin drama , we don't all live our lives like that, if we did why would we want to hear and watch made up stuff?

Yeah I was just trying to pre-empt those who were probably about to jump on me when I talked about the kids plural being stuck with their awful Dad, to clarify I meant Will. And apart from Poppy they’re not really stuck, what I was really thinking was how the only part of their previous nice family life all together in the cottage they now have left is Will, who was vaguely human with Nic there to manage him and now is a disaster area. I agree that Bev is fab though.

I didn't get a pregnancy from the Kirsty/Philip scenes m, I just thought they were a very blunt hammer home (the SWs must have thought we'd miss it) the contrast between EdnEmmur and Phil&Kirsty especially the bit about Kirsty thinking she'd never have a place of her own in Ambridge and having the time and security to winter on about bird boxes etc. It should have been Ed carrying Emma over a threshold etc

Susan is going to go ballistic when she finds out Tony's known what was going on all along and didn't tell her

Neil not Tony.

Susan is going to go ballistic

She really is! And when she finds out Emma went round with her begging bowl.

Philip: “We’re here to stay.”

Kirsty: “I noticed our neighbour. Think she lives alone.”

Just. Sayin’ ...

Neil, of course it's Neil

Has anyone got their head round what happened with Kate and Jakob? Kate was keen on a date with Jakob, and so it's not surprising post-massage when Jakob told Alistair about "extra services for special customers", Alistair saw it as innuendo.

But during the actual massage, Kate seemed far from interested in Jakob romantically (was seeing him naked enough to kill that stone dead? ). She seemed focussed on the business (eg trying to get a tip at the end), and the "other services" she was talking about sounded genuine, not offered with a nudge and a wink. So, is that the end of that whole story?

Perfect Quater! I have absolutely no problem at all with Philip having an affair. Though not sure how that would resolve with Kirsty getting the house...

Oh. That wasn’t what I meant ...

Oh, what did you mean then?

Do you mean Kirtsty getting together with the single woman?

But now, if Philip dies, he leaves having placed Kirsty in (one assumes) a secure position in the village and the story.
That's a big assumption. All I can see is Kirsty has given up her F/T job, which meant that she was financially independent, and is now reliant on Philip with no security (aka marriage contract / pension rights / inheritance rights / etc). That's great if it's going well but, if it goes wrong, guess who is going to come off worse ...

Do we know for definite that Kirsty is taking an overall pay cut- ie was the salary for full time at GG more than the combined salaries of part time GG plus the Wildlife Trust job?

Isn't Kirstie doing the new job which is voluntary P\T with the GG job? She initially didn't want to do it because of it's lack of income. Thay are sharing the mortagage ?

She’s not a volunteer. She’s a salaried volunteer co-ordinator.

She’s a salaried volunteer co-ordinator.
Guess how much a part time job, nay a P/T job working for a charity, pays? In the words of Paul Daniels, "not a lot".

I was just responding to @ppeatfruit, who said the job was voluntary.

Thank you folks. I wasn't sure, she will be organising volunteers though. I remember that bit.

Philip is a very decent man. I'd be surprised if he hasn't ensured Kirsty's financial position is secure. On the other hand, he does have children from his previous marriage, doesn't he? They should be getting his half of the house if he does die, and I doubt Kirsty is in any position to pay them off. Maybe she could then take in lodgers or run a B&B or Air BnB business to keep afloat.

Talk about 2+2+5 - we've built a huge castle in the air from a cricked neck!

Oh, what did you mean then? I thought Quater meant that there might soon be two women living alone in large houses next door to one another.