Discuss The Archers - yes, this really is Thread 103. Are you going to vote for feet, stations of the cross, or a hologram? Will Natasha ever return? Will Russ ever leave?

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Yes Mere the hearing has been and gone was it Feb or March? Brine was fined 30 thousand pounds or something like that ( it may have been more it wasn't less).

I wish Will would have ‘an accident’ and Poppy could be adopted by Emma and Ed. With Mia visiting frequently.

Yes poor little Poppy without Mia to look after her I bet she gets upset. I do feel a bit sorry for Will, it is difficult at the best of times dealing with a 13 year old let alone when she has a reason to be stroppy.

The acting was good with Mia's barely disguised contempt for the Lake District holiday.

Didn't Tom say the pay for the other work he offered Jazzer was not as high as the pig man role? That could make it more likely than not that Jazzer has a case for redundancy

How long has Jazzer worked for Tom (as in been employed)? And does he have a contract? No redundancy payment within a small number of years I think 2 but stand to be corrected. Also if no contract then Jazzer never employed hence has less of a case but custom and practice will impact here too.

It's the cavalier way Tom (and Helen) treat their employees that riles. I hope so much Jazzer does litigate and wins.

Wow. I’ve just listened to last night’s. Will was horrific. Abusive. Said things that Mia could carry with her for the rest of her life. She needs to find someone sensible who knows the family well but is not a Will-apologiser to confide in ASAP and make sure she tells them EVERYTHING. Where is Beverley?

It's the cavalier way Tom (and Helen) treat their employees that riles.

Employment rights are usually badly displayed in most soaps. My father was always checking stuff on his responsibilities as an employer.

At least this shows Jazzer does have some rights, and there's likely to be some discussion around it.

Pretty sure Jazzer's worked at Bridge Farm for about a million years. Definitely more than two.

Apparently he started working there in 2004.

I was quite upset that the cheese is horrible, for Jonny’s sake. I wonder how he feels about jazzer going.

I thought the cheese was good?

The cheese was great. It’s just that Clarrie and Susan are too working class to appreciate it.

Susan coped with the Kefir....

Helen thought it was wonderful. Susan and clarrie less so.

They have to call her Mere or we'd mix her up with Mia Ned.

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How long has Jazzer worked for Tom (as in been employed)? And does he have a contract? No redundancy payment within a small number of years I think 2 but stand to be corrected. Also if no contract then Jazzer never employed hence has less of a case but custom and practice will impact here too

That is nonsense. Unless someone is a genuine self- employed independent contractor (and it has to be genuine , employment tribunals take a dim view of patently fake " self- employed contractor claims by employers) if you pay someone to turn up every day and carry out work under your direction that person is an employee whether or not there is anything in writing. The terms of the employment contract will be as applied by employment legislation.

Of course Jazzer is an employee , regardless of whether there is anything in writing.

There are strict protocols for dealing with redundancy , including proper consultation, none of which Tom followed.

What on Earth is Mia and the Grundys' accent supposed to be? I have never heard it before. It's like a cross between midlands and West Country. Have they invented a borsetshire accent or is it a real accent?

Acts of Pennants - tying myself in knots trying to think of another bunting pun . Will is hopeless - he's always been pretty awful - I don't think he's any worse now than he was before Nic died it's just that there is no-one there to pull him up and dilute his effects. Her death has devastated him and I don't think he knows how to recover - holding onto Mia as some kind of replacement Nic was his way of remaining in denial. I honestly think he thought that his looking after Mia was what Nic would have wanted. I don't think Clarrie was much help either press-ganging Nic into the cricket teas and going on about how she was her mother's daughter. Mia should never have continued living with Will. It was a mystery to most of us why she and Jake didn't immediately move back in with their dad when their mum died. So as much as what happened last night was terrible, it wasn't wholly surprising - I don't think Will has properly addressed the effects of Nic's death which were made all the worse by being sudden. It is right that Mia has gone back to Andrew's - that is where she should have been all along and I'm prepared to cut Will a bit of slack providing he now addresses his own grief and makes a conscious effort to sort himself out.

Employment rights are usually badly displayed in most soaps

As are rented housing rights. There is always the idea that if there's nothing in writing there's no contract ergo no rights for the tenant or the employee- which couldn't be farther from the case.

Yes- Will has always been awful. Remember when Nick and Emma fell out and Emma tried to make up but Will wouldn’t let it happen?

Brine was fined 30 thousand pounds or something like that Is that all? Hardly a deterrent.

They have to call her Mere or we'd mix her up with Mia Ned. You can't call her Mere. I thought you were talking about me, and then I thought ppeatfruit was talking about Mia - I can't cope with this level of confusion.

Exactly Bert - I suppose what I was trying to say is he is awful, he always has been - it isn't a new development, but I still feel a bit sorry for him in spite of this because what happened with Nic was so very shocking.

What on Earth is Mia and the Grundys' accent supposed to be? I have never heard it before. It's like a cross between midlands and West Country. Have they invented a borsetshire accent or is it a real accent? Most of the Grundies are not too far from Vale of Evesham which is pretty well Borsetshire - being half way between Birmingham and Somerset it's not too surprising that it sounds somewhere between Midlands and West Country. Will's is more problematical but has a twang of Borsetshire/Herefordshire border - though why he should have acquired that I don't know.

Will Mia Ned be performing Acts of Pennants or ...?

Work in progress ...

echt I so agree on the breathy voice from Lizzie, exacerbated by listening on headphones as my family is mysteriously uninterested in following TA. Don’t you think Jolene is just as bad, though in her case it’s when she’s wanting to sound sexy? Ugh. Though in the case of this week’s episode, that was a great scene with Kenton. I had a vision of the falling out of telephone boxes photos and was glad she saw sense to nix them. Even though more debt is to be incurred.

I though Brine was fined £130K.

MereDint, as long as you don't mix me up with Mike Tucker - I probably look more like Vicky.

Oh, we are doing bunting puns? Why did no-one flag that up? I won't leave you all hanging, as I'm fete-d never to resist a good pun-off.

Actually, I worked for many years in a town called Buntingford. I bet you're all jealous now.

The little I remember on contract law from a presentation for actuaries is that indeed doesn't need to be written to be a contract in English law. It was explained that every time you buy something in a shop, you complete a contract: the shopkeeper makes an offer (£X for this item) and you are deemed to have agreed the contract by handing over that amount (a monetary consideration being a requirement for it to be a legal contract).