Movin' on up (Ed and Emmur), Movin' on out (Brian and Jenny), Time to break free (Lily from Russ, we hope), Nothing can stop *The Archers* in 2019 - Thread 97 (Joe Grundy’s age!)

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Many thanks to @LilianGish for the title and to @NotdeadyetBOING for being the last threadstarter. Further thanks due to @PseudoBadger for kicking of this long, long series of Archers threads and to @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

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I wonder where Brian and Jennifer will end up. I was very taken with the idea on the last thread that the mysterious Gills won't last very long and the house will be sold back to the Aldridges at a knockdown price.

Is Shula still MOH?

I don't think we have heard anything about her not being so, so I assume so. (Isn't it MFH?)

Yes, it's MFH - Master of Fox Hounds. Not MOH.

I was waiting for the ‘that’s 40p change’ and then I heard the beep of contactless.

Oops. Typo. Is she?

I'm not sure that buying decaff coffee is an infallible sign of pregnancy. Lexi could simply be buying it as a general health thing to improve her chances of getting pregnant - or indeed she could have simply put it in the basket by accident. It did sound a bit as if she refused to change it primarily because Susan was being so bloody annoying.

Remind me again ...

Clive, etc?

(Remember how lovely she's been about Freddie ...)

Saturday - that's how I read it. Lexi had made a mistake with her coffee, but by that point she was so keen to get out the shop (remember she didn't wait for her receipt). I thought it was just emphasising Susan's obliviousness to Lexi's feelings.

And refusing seafood salad? Why else would we need to know what was for lunch?!

Bert Are you referring to Lexi or Shula? I think we are supposed to think that Lexi is pregnt. Ian and Lexi were joking about, she mentioned that the transfer "had happened last week". I know I got symptoms almost straight away , she's had 2 babies so would know, but of course every pregnancy is different.

The seafood salad was a ridiculously clunky clue.

They have got it wrong on the “transfer was over a week ago” thing. When you have IVF they give you an exact date on which to test. They even give you the pregnancy test to do it with! Adam and Ian would know exactly when the test day was and would be expecting Lexi to tell them then.

The official test date is usually a couple of days after you could get a positive result and many women do test early- I did. However Lexi would be silly to say anything to them before the official test date. (Mine was Christmas Day- what a Christmas that was!)

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Why is kirsty gone from confident, happy young woman too bird watching grump in space of a few years.. Bizzarre

I’d have thought being jilted, seeing your best mate/almost sister-in-law stab her husband and then almost be jailed for murder after having a baby in prison, then conceiving a baby with the jilter, only to lose it late into the pregnancy when you are in all likelihood too old to have another child, might possibly make you a bit subdued and grumpy.

I’d have thought being jilted, seeing your best mate/almost sister-in-law stab her husband and then almost be jailed for murder after having a baby in prison, then conceiving a baby with the jilter, only to lose it late into the pregnancy when you are in all likelihood too old to have another child, might possibly make you a bit subdued and grumpy.

When you put it like that...

I LA and you're right, it could be contactless (I had first thought the beep was the till opening). In that case they need to get better contactless sound effects.

I prefer to think she's dug out some crowns or guineas or something (I wasn't alive under pre-decimal currency, but I have a vague feeling from things like Frances Hodgson Burnett and Noel Streatfeild novels that a guinea is a very impressive amount of money the like of which is not seen in an ordinary transaction).

A crown was 5 shillings (25p) and a guinea was one-pound-one-shilling (£1.05).

a guinea is a very impressive amount of money the like of which is not seen in an ordinary transaction
Sorry to disappoint.

a guinea is a very impressive amount of money the like of which is not seen in an ordinary transaction
I must admit that I still think, as a hangover from days when pocketmoney was sixpence, that anything over 10 bob is a vast amount of money.

I wasn't alive under pre-decimal currency, but I have a vague feeling from things like Frances Hodgson Burnett and Noel Streatfeild novels that a guinea is a very impressive amount of money the like of which is not seen in an ordinary transaction

By the time of those novels, the value was standardised as 21 shillings ie £1 5p in new money. I had a horsey book in which a girl scrimped and saved to buy a pony, and thought she had enough only to find it was priced in guineas rather than pounds so she had to find a way to quickly get a few more shillings.

Kirsty should spend more time bird watching and doing conservation volunteering (at least till she finds a more satisfying job) - hacking at undergrowth in all weathers is excellent therapy for grumpiness IME.

I appreciate all these things happened to kirsty but she did not have a late miscarriage.. I thought she was around 10-12 weeks??
Not that makes it easier. I just find it odd that through all this she was still a relatively happy character who was kind and understanding etc... She'd never had been so horrid to Jennifer.. And suddenly she is really not nice...

It was a late miscarriage. IIRC she had to go through delivery. Even as an off-air thing it was unusually grim for TA.

Thanks.. I don't remember it being a still birth.. I thought she was 10 weeks.. Oh well must be my memory

Helen's verdict and the resulting celebrations were Sep 2016. The miscarriage was Feb 2017, so Kirsty was 5/6 months. Far enough along for Peggy to give her a chunky cheque.

Yeah that was a bit weird to be honest. Had Peggy already given kirsty the cheque for the baby before she lost it? I think that's how I remember it. If she gave it to get after the miscarriage then it was odd to say the least.

“Had Peggy already given kirsty the cheque for the baby before she lost it?”

Yes she had. And Kirsty tried to give it back, but Peggy told her to keep it. It was a very touching scene.

A guinea in about 1900 would be worth about £125 now. So a bigger sum of money than many of us would expect to see in a single coin (or note).

That makes a lot more sense 're the cheque. I was just thinking no wonder the village of ambridge is a bit incestuous, a previous poster was right, every time the SW bring in a character as a potential partner it feels as if it doesn't work. Lee, Philip, Lexi, Natasha, they all feel clunky to me.

Pip becomes more detestable every time she opens her mouth.

She was so obviously manipulating Rex into feeling obliged to offer to mind Rosie.

And when he did offer, she comes over all disingenuously surprised by such a kind gesture.

It must all be very tiring for her if she needed to go for a lie down.

Philip gives me the creeps. I hate Pip . Toby annoying.