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We never thought we’d feel sorry for Will. Although of course it should have been Pip! Discuss The Archers here (Titled edited by MNHQ)

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PseudoBadger · 02/03/2018 11:47

Welcome all! I was really touched by the potential for Ed and Will to reconcile. But wonder if Will can accept Ed’s support.

As ever, no spoilers here (there’s a thread for that) - discussion permitted as soon as the pm episode is broadcast.

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Ghostontoast · 13/03/2018 19:18

If only Joe had whipped out a smart phone and recorded Nic’s dying declaration “Line of Duty” style.

MrsLandingham · 13/03/2018 19:29

What did he say, what did he say? may be overinvested here

elpth · 13/03/2018 19:58

I've not listened yet but a clip is on TA fb page and Joe said she told him she knocked down Matt Crawford Hmm which is totally out of character (to have driven off and not owned up) plus a rather too neat conclusion to a storyline none of us cared about anyway. Sigh.
Still, at least we can all move on now...

tamaraboomdeay · 13/03/2018 20:29

But out of character. So probably more to it than that. Maybe she thought she'd done it but someone else actually did?

LillianGish · 13/03/2018 20:43

Personally I think that after the huge drama of the hit and run which fizzled out to nothing this would neatly tie it up for the SW without having to go through with hoo ha of a trial and consequences etc etc Let’s hope this draws a line under that tedious plot. Does anyone care?

kesie123 · 13/03/2018 21:40

Couldn't care less about Matt I'm afraid but do care about poor Joe being tortured about Nic having done it - totally out of character and a cheap plot wipe up if that's what the SW have done. Eddie was good at dismissing it though.

RubyLennoxExists · 13/03/2018 22:11

Didn't we hear footsteps on the night of the accident? IIRC they sounded more like a man's. I could be imagining this of course.

LillianGish · 13/03/2018 22:17

totally out of character and a cheap plot wipe up I think that’s it in a nutshell. Personally I think Nic’s death is enough without all this just as the hit and run added nothing to Matt’s departure (especially as he didn’t die). I find the tendency to over-dramatise makes it feel less real - the small dramas are often much more affecting because they seem more real.

RubyLennoxExists · 13/03/2018 22:19

Looking at out thread at the time I found this:-

I just LA. Matt definitely on foot, on a hard surface, and telling driver to dip his lights. No indication of how long after Justin leaving the pub the accident happened. However I did get the impression it was a while after Nic knocked off for the night so I think we can rule her out as a suspect.
So it may be the only footsteps we heard were Matt's but interesting we we were considering Nic as potentially responsible then? But if this post is correct and there was a lapse of time Nic would already have been home? Where did she go to pick up Poppy?

LillianGish · 13/03/2018 22:36

However unsatisfactory, I think we can safely assume it was her. Why the death bed confession otherwise? I can’t believe the SW would continue to stretch out an already lack-lustre Whodunnit - the victim’s not even dead. If we must have another court case and prison sentence then there’s always the contamination at Home Farm - surely that’s enough.

birdsdestiny · 13/03/2018 22:42

It's just shoddy if we are supposed to believe it was Nic. Nic would have behaved oddly if she had mown down Matt, but she was organising bloody dancing lessons. Really irritated.

LillianGish · 13/03/2018 23:10

Really irritated. Irritated by the Matt plot from start to finish - not sure why they bothered to bring him back to be honest. He didn’t even split up Justin and Lillian - added nothing to the plot whatsoever and has now swanned off presumably to be left in the wings in case the SW decide to bring him back at some time in the future. The hit and run has been the least gripping Whodunnit ever and has had to most unsatisfactory conclusion. Badly done all round.

echt · 14/03/2018 06:00

Totally shit get-out by the SWs. The only bonus is we don't have to think about it any more.

R4 · 14/03/2018 09:15

The hit and run was a bit rubbish but I have liked the aftermath. It is very true-to-life that the Police seem not to have solved it and everybody else has moved on (yesterday's news / today's chip wrapper syndrome). It would have been awful if they turned TA into some police procedural thing.

AuntyElle · 14/03/2018 09:16

I don’t think that’ll be the end of it. Felt it was set up for Joe to then find out it wasn’t actually her (but she died thinking it was?). Either way it doesn’t work.

RockNRollNerd · 14/03/2018 09:30

Why have they shoe-horned the Matt whodunnit into this? It's going to distract utterly from what could have been a really sensitive and realistic portrayal of the long term impact of a sudden death of a relatively young parent. In the same way now that we had all the David/Elizabeth recriminations after SATTC, we're now going to have weeks on end presumably of Will stomping around justifiably upset that his dead wife's reputation is being dragged through the mud. All the knock on consequences (him falling out with Joe, Ed etc) are going to be a horrid sideshow from the real storyline they should be focussing on...

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/03/2018 11:19

Maybe Nic didn't knock down Matt. But after the police singularly failed to pin it on anyone else despite and abundance of suspects, she began to worry that she had also been on the road - not a serious worry, hence lack of guilt and ability to still function. But sepsis cause feeling of doom - could the being at home and getting more and more ill have turned this background thought "I was on that road" into a deathbed thought of "I was on that road and it must have been me and I didn't notice because I was so worried about Poppy"?

Bekabeech · 14/03/2018 13:07

If that is supposed to be the explanation then I will be cross (just as Brighton was a crap explanation imho). But if it turns out that Nic was mistaken or someone else was involved - then I'll be happy.

The worst would be to invent a retrospective back story in which Nic had an involvement with Organized crime and it was a professional hit on behalf of those running the scam who Matt had scammed.

LillianGish · 14/03/2018 13:13

RockNRollNerd I completely agree.

MrsArthurShappey · 14/03/2018 13:23

The worst would be to invent a retrospective back story in which Nic had an involvement with Organized crime and it was a professional hit on behalf of those running the scam who Matt had scammed.

Worst? That sounds a-mazing!

birdsdestiny · 14/03/2018 13:31

No wonder she has a row with Emma then, running a family, working, and organising a gangland hit, that would make anyone a bit snappy.

LillianGish · 14/03/2018 14:27

If Nic had some sort of Mafia link then maybe her sepsis was caused by something more sinister than the cut on her wrist Grin

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/03/2018 17:00

OMG! WMD come to Ambridge!

Expect if they ever find Stefan's body it will glow in the dark.

RubyLennoxExists · 14/03/2018 19:26

Shula's a cow, and a coward. It's one thing deciding her marriage is over because she's bored/out of love but to tell him that and then to flounce off in tears without discussing it with Alastair/letting him ask questions was pretty mean. As was sending Kenton round to collect her clothes. I can't see her spending long in the room above the Bull.

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/03/2018 19:29

No, she wants 'passion' so she'll be looking for another man.

Watch out Oliver.