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The Archers: Will Pip grow or Jill blow? Lil make her vow or Justin take his bow? Discussion #83

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DadDadDad · 02/12/2017 14:06

TA (The Archers) annoys me intensely but I still have to listen
I think there is a possibility that we obsess about TA in a way that most listeners don't

If this is you (genuine quotes from earlier threads), or you're new and want to ask anything about The Archers, then this is the right place.

PseudoBadger started it, but we're going to finish it (er, will TA ever finish?)

The panto is meant to be Sleeping Beauty, but are you expecting farce (Mother Goose Pip) or tragedy (Puss Cat in Wedding Dress Boots )?

This should see us through to Christmas. Xmas Smile Archers

At the end of the last thread we were remembering recent successful marriages in Ambridge. How long ago was Ed & Emma?

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BertrandRussell · 15/12/2017 19:56

And the awful woman in the clinic-please someone tell me they aren't really like that........

Minimammoth · 15/12/2017 19:56

Ooohnoooh. Ruth a grannie.

C8H10N4O2 · 15/12/2017 19:58

Is there a [practically too angry to type] emoticon?

This isn't far from my reaction. I'm spitting.

The Archers: Will Pip grow or Jill blow? Lil make her vow or Justin take his bow? Discussion #83
Cromwell1536 · 15/12/2017 20:09

Really, though, is this what abortion clinics are like these days? When did our NHS TOP services get taken over by pro-life activists? I"m absolutely certain that 30 years ago nothing like this exchange would have taken place. This is really terrible!

TheAntiBoop · 15/12/2017 20:15

So what has the archers taught us

If you are in an abusive relationship the best way out is to stab him and risk a lengthy jail sentence.

If you don't want to continue a pregnancy don't go to an abortion clinic because they will guilt you into changing your mind. Because you know, you obviously don't know your own mind

If marrying a wealthy man make sure you transfer your property into his name before you're legally wed.

Abra1d · 15/12/2017 20:15

The Grundys were Christmas minded towards He Who Must Not be Named some years ago. Took him and gave him meals and presents.

This isn’t the first instance of their seasonal magnanimity.

extinctspecies · 15/12/2017 20:36

I missed tonight's episode due to having 8 teenage boys round for Domino's.

But from the reaction on here, I'm glad I did.

And if it's relevant, I had a termination 33 years ago - and nobody asked me then if I was sure I wanted to go ahead...

Now I'm going to have to change my name, again.

echt · 15/12/2017 21:35

Thank God. I thought I was over-invested because of how flaming angry I feel about that episode. Was that pro-life infiltrator meant to represent what really goes in the clinics?

FFS. Lazy, lazy writing/plotlines.

On a more trivial level, the voices are getting to me, specifically Elizabeth's breathy delivery, and the clinic woman who had an RW lisp just like Emma's, or is that how Borsetshire types are meant to speak?

AntiBoop makes excellent points. I know it's fiction, but the representation of poem is dire. Angry

echt · 15/12/2017 21:38

Women, not poem.

Cromwell1536 · 15/12/2017 21:48

extinct, you don't have to change your name. Unplanned/unwanted pregnancies happen and we have legal recourse to abortion, so that babies come into the world welcomed and wanted. I am fucking outraged by this representation of TOP services. I haven't needed such a service since 1987, so I don't know if this is what happens now; I sincerely hope it does not.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 15/12/2017 21:57

Now I'm going to have to change my name, again

No you don't.

LillianGish · 15/12/2017 22:01

It’s the worst possible outcome - Lil and Justin are reconciled (he seems to have morphed back into an amiable old country gent for the purposes of this development - interested to see how long that lasts) and Pip’s going ahead with her pregnancy (room for one more in the cereal cupboard?) That giant emoji up-thread by the poster with the unpronounceable name says it all for me.

TheAntiBoop · 15/12/2017 22:02

No judgement here - it's a brave decision and one not taken lightly.

I feel more angry the more I think about it. The whole DV 'we've done research we want to help' bullshit made me angry. The flippant way they have used this as a plot device is almost worse.

Ceto · 15/12/2017 23:26

I bet Pip plans to dump the baby on Jill so that she can carry on being SuperFarmer.

lonelyplanetmum · 15/12/2017 23:35

Hmmm now let's think of any other couples in Ambridge ( Clue-one of whom has a low sperm count) and may be interested in adopting baby Pip?

Because informal adoptions like that happen all the time (not).

BertrandRussell · 15/12/2017 23:39

Is that really how women are treated in an abortion clinic?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 16/12/2017 00:02

Don't know but how inaccurate TA is about other aspects of life one can hope not.

LillianGish · 16/12/2017 07:28

I think the scene in the clinic was a very clumsy dramatisation of 'Pip seriously considers abortion, but can't go through with it'. Wholly unnecessary - we could have had the phone call to Elizabeth in the waiting room and then Elizabeth visiting her at home to be told "I just couldn't go through with it in the end" - leaving the rest to our imagination. Badly done - like almost every scene involving Pip.

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DadDadDad · 16/12/2017 08:18

That giant emoji up-thread by the poster with the unpronounceable name says it all for me.

Just call her Caffeine (which is what C8H10N4O2 is).

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RolfNotRudolf · 16/12/2017 08:59

It's not just Pip who is being punished for having casual sex, it's us the listeners. The thought of Pip and the Dopeys being put firmly centre stage for the next year at least when the characters are annoying enough as it is, and Pip especially needs to FOTTFSOF, is deeply depressing.
And if they do run a SL of Ian adopting Little Toe-bee that'll be a soapification event too far.

BertrandRussell · 16/12/2017 09:10

She's not being punished for having casual sex. She's being punished for having sex.

C8H10N4O2 · 16/12/2017 09:19

just call her Caffeine (which is what C8H10N4O2 is)

I'm not picky, C8 is a popular abbreviation here and less typing, also not a million miles from my reality Grin

I must admit, I forgot to check the size of the emoji before uploading it but on reflection - yes I am that annoyed about it. Partly because:

She's not being punished for having casual sex. She's being punished for having sex gives me the rage.

and partly because:

Pip and the Dopeys being put firmly centre stage for the next year at least means a year focusing on dire acting and whining

and mostly because because of the truly pro life parody of the abortion clinic which I suspect will generate a lot of calls to Feedback this week.

C8H10N4O2 · 16/12/2017 09:19

terrible not truly !

BertrandRussell · 16/12/2017 09:52

"nd mostly because because of the truly pro life parody of the abortion clinic" Yes, this.

It was unforgivable. As unforgivable as the outrageous handling of the domestic violence storyline.

R4 · 16/12/2017 10:41

That wasn't the BBC being balanced, was it?Confused

I've tried googling to see BPAS' or Marie Stopes' reaction but can't see anything.

It's all too depressing. Toebee is tied to Ambridge by Scruff Gin so he's not going anywhere. However, it's not exactly a full time occupation so do we think that he will be a SAHD while Pip carries on being SuperCowWoman.