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PseudoBadger · 03/01/2017 10:28

Happy New Year to you all.

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Shallishanti · 04/01/2017 23:42

agreed BR

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 04/01/2017 23:48

Oh boop Jim and boop boop Susan

BeaLola · 05/01/2017 01:52

I'm not sure why Jim let Rob in either - unlike him and also when Rob moaned about having no food at home after his long commute couldn't Jim have said " the pub serves food".

I think Rob is going to lash out and then Harrisonnwho used to be the resident police force but has had a lot of airtime off lately can arrest him !

ColdTeaAgain · 05/01/2017 08:12

Agree totally Bertrand.

TaurielTest · 05/01/2017 09:14

It is feeling a bit Murder on the Orient Express to me - everybody is having a turn sticking the richly-deserved knife into Rob, from Adam and his remarks about Christmas with children to Susan last night. When Rob cracks and goes postal in whatever way, everyone will have had a hand in it.

Vango · 05/01/2017 09:21

I'd say that ship has sailed Bertrand. As far as I can see, only one person has been jailed for cc and it would be a very dodgy route for the SWs to try to go down. There just isn't enough information about how to ensure a successful prosecution yet. And there's very little evidence against Rob and no witnesses with any substantial information.

JeNeSuisPasVotreMiel · 05/01/2017 09:22

Just catching up. ..

TheAntiBoop · 05/01/2017 09:31

Perhaps he could be jailed for the rapes at least - Jess and Helen testifying. And maybe someone will have seen the press coverage and come forward

Agree that everyone getting their turn to have their dig at knob is getting a bit wearisome. Can we just be done with the whole thing already

VictoriaMcdade · 05/01/2017 09:40

I really really fancy a sausage roll right now.

Ace thread title Pseudo

Vango · 05/01/2017 09:42

Agree that everyone getting their turn to have their dig at knob is getting a bit wearisome. Can we just be done with the whole thing already

We moaned on here for long enough that no-one was telling him what they really thought of him! It's not surprising to me that they're all sick of him hanging around. It only takes one person to say what they think for the floodgates to open surely?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/01/2017 09:44

As I've said before, the SWs have put themselves in a difficult spot here. If they wanted to give hope to abused women, they'd have given us a better storyline in the first place, with Helen seeking help to leave Rob and not assaulting him.

If on the other hand they wanted true realism, they'd have built this up over a much longer period and all the violence would have come from him, and perhaps she would never have left him finally.

As it is, they decided to go for sensationalism and high ratings with the stabbing and the trial. So in a sense they could now do anything, because they don't seem to be bothered about reflecting reality or giving hope to anyone in a similar position.

However, as Vango says, there have been hardly any prosecutions for coercive control and we all know getting a conviction for rape is not easy. It is to my mind entirely credible that Helen and Jess would decide not to go down that route. A rape trial would be absolutely vile. A CC trial might be marginally less traumatic, but again the defence would absolutely lay into Helen.

Far easier to get him into prison for a clear-cut case of assault if he finally loses his rag and does hit someone or get out his shotgun. And isn't that more like real life, too? Men who abuse their partners are far more likely to end up in prison for a physical assault than emotional or sexual abuse, aren't they?

Vango · 05/01/2017 09:47

Agree with all of that Gasp0. The SWs must be cursing SOC's legacy.

TheAntiBoop · 05/01/2017 10:26

I think people are more likely to ignore or act politely but cold than have a full on confrontation which is invariably perfectly put (when does that happen in real life!)

The whole sl has been a shambles from the point they decided on stab night.

There's a thread on here where someone was commenting that people expect abusers to be a certain type and can't believe it of quiet polite men. I thought of rob and how he is fulfilling every stereotypes dream.

CeciledeVolanges · 05/01/2017 11:07

Bertrand may I quote you? I'm trying to put my Academic Archers presentation together - I'm not certain whether I agree with you or whether it will go in, but I think it is a really good statement - will that be OK?

BertrandRussell · 05/01/2017 11:19

Yes of course.

Megatherium · 05/01/2017 12:23

I don't find the procession of people getting digs in against Rob at all wearisome, after the months if not years when he seemed to bear a charmed life and constantly got away with things - including things for which he still hasn't been brought to account, like the culvert and the hunt sab. So if anything I want more people going after him, including Justin.

enochroot · 05/01/2017 12:36

I think the current portrayal of Rob is odd. I get that he is angry and feeling hard done by but he's a very crafty man, well able to conceal his real agenda under a veneer of charm. It's how he has always operated and his contrite performance for Alan seemed to me to be the true, guileful Rob playing a long game.

If he hopes to sway people's opinion he is acting in a way least likely to get the result he wants which is for people to feel sorry for him and believe his pov that Helen is lying and that he always acted out of love.

He's made a conscious decision to stay in Ambridge so I would expect him to be portraying himself as super-nice. If he's losing his temper so easily then he seems to have lost his grip almost entirely.

He's fraying at the edges now so visibly and behaving so aggressively to so many people that I fear the SWs are working towards a violent incident.

PinkSwimGoggles · 05/01/2017 16:03

He's made a conscious decision to stay in Ambridge

yes, but that was before the court ordered restricted access.

PuppetInParadize · 05/01/2017 16:30

Assuming the shop has only one door, I suppose Jim and Susan wouldn't want to be unable to leave to go home if Knob had remained at the door. I think his behaviour is now reportable, sometimes anyway. Susan/Jim could have reported him for verbal abuse and threatening behaviour.

EBearhug · 05/01/2017 16:50

I think his behaviour is now reportable, sometimes anyway.

That's always been the case - but in the past, he's usually been more careful to turn on people when there aren't any other witnesses around. I think he thought that was happening last night, because he didn't realise Susan was in the back room.

Gumpendorf · 05/01/2017 16:56

As he's still of the view that he has been badly misunderstood, I suppose Rob's frustration comes from being unable to assert his will (and charm) over people. Yesterday, he tried the charm on Elizabeth and she snubbed him. Kenton was cool. Then Jim refused to serve him. At some point, he's going to boil over. I'd rather he was forced to face CC/rape charges rather than be convicted for assault too. That way, he can't blame his aggression on his 'unfair treatment' and Helen's 'lies'.

GypsyFl0ss · 05/01/2017 19:16

Ah the CA read my mind Grin

Gumpendorf · 05/01/2017 19:23

Both Alan and Jenny gave up very easily in that episode. New editor keen to move on?

oldfatandtired1 · 05/01/2017 19:29

I know it's not real 😀 but Helen's visit to the divorce solicitor really annoyed me! Any decent solicitor would tell her you can't defend a divorce, there's no point! If one party wants a divorce it will happen. And no way will he get his hands on the farm or any part of it, after such a short marriage each party comes out with what they brought to the marriage (with maybe a tiny bit of 'go away' money. And he should be paying maintenance for the baby as he is the father. Rant over!

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 05/01/2017 19:31

Agree that everyone getting their turn to have their dig at knob is getting a bit wearisome

Nah, I'm happy for every one to have their turn.
Although in the pecking order of people most likely to be sane and reasonable and whom everyone else respects even if they don't always agree with I'm not sure the script writers can top Jim.