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Jill does sound terribly overwrought about Toby, I think they are leading into a long dementia plotline.
That's what I thought because it is very similar to my mother's behaviour before we realised she had dementia.
I think if it were a dementia storyline they would be dropping hints all over the place with Peggy forgetting appointments, leaving ingredients out of her cooking, forgetting names etc. They've done none of that. Because it doesn't always present itself that way and Jill has family around to remind her of appointments etc. My Mum didn't forget family names until the very end.

Those were just examples of the kinds of hints that the SWs would drop if they were doing a dementia storyline. The point is that the one and only thing that has happened that might point to dementia is, essentially, a very short part of one episode that is equally explicable by Jill's dislike of Toby and the fact that she equates him to his father. If they were doing a dementia storyline they would certainly be slipping a number of pointers in.

Never mind the many faces, what about the "soup", FrancisCrawford?

It's true that Toby and Pip are finding many ways to increase Jill's loathing of Toby, but what hasn't been explained is why Jill has been so hateful towards him from the very start! That's not rational.

Vango, I wasn't listening/can't remember when Lizzie was going out with the Fairbretheren's father, Robin. But I gather her heart was broken and Jill remembers this and bears a grudge on behalf of her youngest child and thinks that all Fairbretheren are spawn of the devil? Hence her attitude to both Rex and Toby?

agree that Jill seems uncharacteristically obsessive re Toby, and that her approach is counterproductive
did anyone else think when she and Ruth were wondering if anyone would want BHC- and Jill talked about Brookfield- shouldn't Ruth have remembered the fire at Brookfield and Grac's death?

Except that she doesn't seem to feel such antipathy towards Rex Tuktuk. Good point re. the fire Shalli, especially since Jill mentioned Robin!

I'm hopeless at paying attention at the back, Vango, but I just thought Jill hated both Fairbrethren initially but is now fixated on Toby because of his going out with Pip?

I don't know, I'm confused by the whole thing at the moment. 😁

It doesn't seem massively irrational to me for Jill to hate Toby, but that's because he irritates the hell out of me. I suspect that if a close relative of mine shacked up with someone like that, and if I was worried that he was a ne'er do well who was leeching on her and whose conduct had put her and her family at risk of prosecution, that irritation would turn into something quite a lot stronger.

I suspect that if a close relative of mine shacked up with someone like that, and if I was worried that he was a ne'er do well who was leeching on her and whose conduct had put her and her family at risk of prosecution, that irritation would turn into something quite a lot stronger.

Nah, it's counterproductive. It's better to take the p** instead.
The business about the still is silly. The Dopeys should say that they want Toby to get rid of it by a specific deadline, and if he doesn't do it by then they will.

I think it's perfectly rational for Jill to loathe Toby! Quite - indeed it's hard to imagine what anyone would see in him. Even his own brother finds him irritating.
Shalli I thought the same about the fire.

aah, I see

yep, how hard can it be to get rid of a still?

How big is it anyway?

Yes Helen. Demonstrate your fears for Henry by screeching at Jack
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The Kirsty Tom scene was terrible

Maybe Henry doesn't want to be in the Gosling Chorus because at long last he's starting to think like a nearly six year old boy?

I wouldn't bet on it though.