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Fermenting is different to distilling (which can be very dangerous).

Brewing home made beer and wines for home consumption is a very old skill. It is distilling that is illegal. That I think includes all methods of making wines stronger. My grandmother used to make home made wines from her garden- rose hip, elderberry,, and they were very sweet.

The legal thing in the link below prohibits any unlicensed production of spirits, so although not specifically mentioned fractional freezing would also be barred. Although physically safer than distilling, I'm pretty sure it would be even worse for concentrating any methanol in the brew.

Home Brew is very legal - it used to even be a possible sixth form experiment/practical - not sure it still is...

I looked up the legality issue out of curiosity and found the answer very easily. One site mentioned that to comply with all the regulations can cost tens of thousands of pounds. It's impossible to believe that Toby didn't discover the illegality, so he's obviously one of those idiots who thinks that the law shouldn't apply to him and that he won't get caught. He probably drink-drives and speeds.

I don't really get how they're trying to characterise Pip. Most of the time they build her up as an unusually mature, knowledgeable (if annoying) farmer, then they depict her as an immature teenager when it comes to relationships. It just doesn't work.

Making your own wine and beer is perfectly legal as long as you don't sell it. There is quite a big shop selling cider presses and other brewing equipment near me.

My mother made elderflower wine, and I may well inherit the clobber, which is strangely beautiful.
But it was for home consumption only - and only for the v brave, though she poured it down the throats of various renowned Scottish folk musicians who seemed to end up in our house after long evenings in pubs during the 80's.
She claimed they were v appreciative and couldn't tell it wasn't real McCoy. They were doubtless too busy singing about the deil and the exciseman to bother their heids about what the drink was.

I digress... there is a clear difference between distillation, fermentation and private/commercial consumption. 2 mins on google is enough and Pip should have taken that time to check. But that would be admitting doubt, and her head is firmly in the sand for the time being.

I'm hoping she is going to have to admit the truth, but have sad doubts about her lucidity. Professional intelligence and relationship intelligence are two different lobes, clearly. As is often the case...

I think because Pip has always been treated as a special snowflake she now believes she is one. David and Roof were always going on about how wonderful she is. In the real world I have never heard people going on about how wonderful people are, especially when they are only doing exactly the same thing as everyone else.
Even on here everyone seems to think Pip will see the light regarding Tobee, but she is as bad as him. I hope they stay together - but move to another part of the country

And when made to deal with the situation, she resorts to "you can't do this". This was When David came round, yet again she has previous form with Jill. And she repeated it when David told them to get rid of the still.

That's a good point. See also her reaction when told the herbal leys were going - she seemed to regress about 10 years into argumentative, petulant child.

Glad to to see Robert Burns being referenced on an Archers thread. Francis and Auld

And not being butchered by Jazzer, The Comedy Scotsman.

It is a very good point. And now you mention it, she said exactly the same thing to Adam too - 'Brian can't do that!' and thought she would be able to talk him round when Adam has failed to.

I've never liked her but I really, really actively dislike her now. Even though she's being manipulated by Toby just like Helen was by Rob.

Incidentally, how does Tony think he can use Rob knowing about LilnJustin to their advantage? I can't think of anything useful

I wonder what veg she is cooking for twenty minutes

buy the land and then do what with it?

Oh god. This isn't going to work is it. Justin is bluffing Brian to get it on the market but will sell it for way more than Brian can offer

And then there's going to be another will they won't they massive development storyline

Didn't home farm used to own that land?

Why does Toby have to set off the smoke alarm when I'm cooking? I had a moment's panic it was my own alarm.

I love the way pip was trying to paint David as the bad guy

If Tobee is getting rid of the still - why is he getting a licence ?

I'm not understanding the land deal. Is Justin just trying to con Brine ?