There's a slow hand clap for Knob. Will there be one for Toby? Discuss The Archers here.

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Sorry for the poor title - the end of the last thread has arrived sooner than I thought and I haven't had the benefit of hearing all of the last 2 nights....

Yes it is pretty blatant isn't it lass although I'd fallen hopelessly for Belle & Sebastian (and the Delgados & Teenage Fanclub & Camera Obscura & The Pastels) years before I'd moved here.

Bertrand when I first moved here. I registered with the Doctor 'where do you stay' asked the receptionist? I leave here. 'But where do you stay?' ever more exasperated I explained 'I'm not on holiday, I live here' , but where do you stay? And so it continued.

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The generational struggle is a TA perennial.

It's an agricultural perennial (and probably other family businesses.) It'd be weird if TA didn't reflect it.

Like Dylan, I did that whole stay/live thing but in Doric, for a girl from near London it was very traumatic, and also took several goes.

I'm away out now- I'll be back when I've done the messages.

Love the scottish and northern 'differences' to english. Especially the 'ashet' I know about the cupboard being a press because it comes from the french for a laundry cupboard. They still use it for that I think.

My Irish Granny used press as well. And the hot press was the airing cupboard

Yes didn't the cupboard literally have a 'press' in it ? To flatten the sheets?

Yaz and Kaz?

(Look at me all filmed up. )

Quite cute the way Adam's two Ambridge-resident sisters have exactly opposite reactions to his marriage-wrecking tomfoolery.

Oh Lord how I miss this thread - and TA as an everyday part of my ife.

Wing men ?

Eurgghhh!

the use of "press" for "cupboard" is now rare in England, but you sometimes hear "linen press" which is also used to describe a form of carving used in wooden panels, it is supposed to resemble the straight folds in sheets when they have been folded and stacked.

I have an idea that a linen press, like a grape press or a printing press, used to have a screw-down plate to squash the sheets flat.

I'm wrong

the carving is called Linenfold
but I'm sure I heard the Linen Press in the description somewhere.

Yes that's right, Piglet (sorry I can't go to links) but of course usage is different in different places.

Lovely language discussions! I vividly remember when we moved to Leeds from Scotland. My brother and I were sent out to find a baker and get rolls for lunch (aged 9 and 6! how times change). We couldn't see the beautiful floury morning rolls we were used to and nobody understood what we were askig for. Eventually we came back with oven-bottom cakes, which have their own charm, but were not quite the same.

Gaspode and other language obsessives If you're interested I can recommend The Elizabeth David book of Bread and Yeast Cookery, it's fascinating with ancient, medium aged and up to her date recipes plus insights about the history , varying names, and areas of types of bread and rolls, cakes etc.

Way ahead of you there, ppeatfruit, I've spent many a happy hour browsing through that book!

Great minds Gaspode

I just heard the film and am happy that we won't have Adam moaning any more ! YAAY!

But I'm not sure that Lynda and Kate are going to get along without any friction sharing the production of the Xmas play.

BOOP for Neil trying so hard to keep Susan from obsessing about her looks.

We have something which was described as a 'linen press' (bought in Lancashire) - its essentially a wardrobe with shorter hanging space with 4 sets of drawers beneath.

Bert is trimming his privet- is their love in the air?

"Oh do FO Rob" would have been so much more effective.

My northern Irish friend called the airing cupboard a hot press.

Glad to hear Alice being nice to Ed. And everyone being horrid to Rob

Yes - but it seems he isn't banned from The Bull, nor is he banned from the shop. Susan won't serve him but he seemed to expect that Jim would.

As for that throwaway line about putting Helen's and Henry's things in the bin if nobody picked them up!

Glad to hear Alice being nice to Ed

Hmm ... Poor Ed. I suspect Tobes might be sharper than people give him credit for.