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No more walking on eggshells for Helen! Heading for an eggsplosive Easter weekend in The Archers - will Helen Archer be resurrected by the end of this thread?

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PseudoBadger · 26/03/2016 08:30

Helen knows she's not cracking up - Knob is an eggomaniac.

Are we eggshausted with this storyline?

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SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 28/03/2016 22:28

Thnaks EBear I missed the outcome of that last thread.

trufflehunterthebadger · 28/03/2016 23:06

imo the Jess DNA Paternity Drama isn't over yet. I remember saying to my Mum when they said it was negative "this isn't the last we'll hear of this". It was such a pointless and peculiar story that it had to be a device set up for something in the future.

mark my words, we haven't seen the end of Jess.

JessieMcJessie · 28/03/2016 23:12

I am pretty sure Helen wasn't at Lower Loxley on Sunday. The piglet stroking was at Bridge Farm, it was all Rob's big idea to get baby animals into the farmyard to attract punters. That's what Peggy and Pat were complimenting him on, his amazing "vision". They were eating cake (not simnel unfortunately) in or outside Fallon's tearoom. The Lower Loxley scenes were completely separate and involved Doc Locke, Lizzy, Lilian and Justin.

TopOfTheCliff · 28/03/2016 23:15

truffle this was a change in tack the SW made after they decided to keep the Hell/Rob story going. The test was going to be positive then there was a change of plan and it didn't make any sense. One of the writers Kerri Davis confirmed this on Twitter. It doesn't stop endless speculation about Ethan and Jess however.

CuttedUpPear · 29/03/2016 01:24

The DNA test was a plot gone wrong ending up in a ridiculous dead end.

SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 29/03/2016 01:29

Which explains why the Jess actress sounded a bit unhinged when acting the denoument that and months of putting up with Ursula

Would be good though if Hellon at least realised that Rob did actually have sex with Jess and probably someone else ehile they were together. Ot would bring her a step closer to the door.

trufflehunterthebadger · 29/03/2016 01:35

Bother Angry

i hope the new editor will have more interest in continuity..

mummytime · 29/03/2016 04:38

Got it!
Just looked at Lowfield for confirmation, and they agree. Sunday's episode was very confusing as half was at Lower Loxley, BUT the other half was at Bridge Farm. The two locations sounded similar and both had special events going on.
Bridge Farm had animals to pet (this had been discussed for sometime, as to who had some cut baby animal to pet), and it also had outside tables for the Cafe. This is where Helen and the rest of the Bridge Farm lot were.
Lower Loxley had a merry-go-round Dr Locke, Elizabeth etc.
Yet again it was one of SOCs compare and contrast, except there wasn't enough contrast and was a bit confusing.

Gruach · 29/03/2016 06:57

TA and The Night Manager in the same Telegraph article.

(Slightly upsetting photos from Sunday's finale.)

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/03/2016 07:57

Gosh, did Keri Davies really confirm that the DNA story outcome had originally been planned differently? I know it's been confirmed that when they first introduced Rob (which was before SOC arrived, IIRC) they had it in mind to make him a replacement for Brian in the role of Ambridge Lothario. The change to the EA storyline came later, don't know why. Maybe somebody pointed out to them that the dynamic between Rob and Jess when she finally appeared on the scene was clearly indicative of an EA relationship?

I'm a bit hazy on the details now about what we know (ie what we heard on air) of what went on between Rob and Jess after she left. She turned up at BHC at one point and told Helen that she and Rob had slept together. Rob denied that, but we all thought it was probably true. We didn't hear them together, did we? We heard a few phone calls between them, though, which made it clear that they had been in some sort of contact and he wanted an end of it, or at any rate it all had to be on his terms.

There was also an odd scene where Hayley was in a changing room in Borchester and talked to another woman, whom she didn't recognise, but we did - it was Jess. What was the point of that, if there was one? I can't remember now.

Then she announced she was pregnant - did she come to BHC again? Again, I can't remember. Rob fulminated and swore blind to Helen that it couldn't be anything to do with him. After the baby was born, we heard that his parents had been to see Jess and seemed to accept that Rob was the father (or am I imagining that?). He refused to have a DNA test to start with, but she went to the CSA and Charlie had to order child support payments to be deducted from his salary. There was a presumption in law that he was the father because they were still married. The only way to overturn that was to have the DNA test, so eventually he did it. Richard Locke did the test, and Keri Davies confirmed on Twitter months later that there was no jiggery pokery about that, it was a genuine test and the result is not going to be overturned. It came back negative and Rob was jubilant.

Then we had the idiotic coda that when Rob and Richard Locke met again in December, the script had been written on the basis that they had never met before. The actors pointed out in the studio that they had met before, and a hurried and inept change was made at the last minute. So we ended up with Richard making the unprofessional remark that he was sure he'd met Rob before somewhere - not a thing an experienced GP would do, given the potential for embarrassment. That sounded as if it was significant in some way, but from KD's remarks it was clearly just ineptitude. Hmm

AugustaFinkNottle · 29/03/2016 08:25

I was just thinking about the Lill/Paul thing in the context of storylines left hanging - they were setting him up as a secretive type and a bit of a control freak with his children, and then left it all hanging when they suddenly killed him off. I wondered if that was a dry run for the HelRob story?

Stickerrocks · 29/03/2016 09:11

Poor Lillian. Matt leaving came as a bolt out of the blue. PC Plod didn't really take the case any further either. I'm still waiting for Tiger to stroll back in through the day saying "Hello, Pusscat".

All ready for WH at 10?

redshoeblueshoe · 29/03/2016 09:16

I'm ready sticker - but I am prepared to be disappointed
I expect to be sending them Biscuit Biscuit Biscuit

KingscoteStaff · 29/03/2016 09:39

What was our conclusion about the 'black shadows' Peggy spotted under Helen's eyes? Tiredness? Make up? Make up covering bruises?

Putthetulipsthere · 29/03/2016 09:48

I'm ready too Sticker. I'm just hoping SOC is asked to address some of the criticism that has come his way ( SL that go nowhere such as the DNA fiasco, sublimation of characters for story line, in particular Pat).

But I expect it will be far more general discussion on DA.

So preparing my 👎👎👎 here ( couldn't find biscuit emoji!)

Stickerrocks · 29/03/2016 09:49

Kingscote I think she's brooding & can't sleep. Perhaps she's stopped drinking all those endless cups of tea Rob was forcing on her full of herbal goodness. However, she doesn't want to let the mask slip just yet in front of Pat & Peggy until she's sure in her own mind about Rob.

Red There was an interview in the new Radio Times this morning with Louiza & Tim. They obviously didn't let on a thing, except that they have never met Henry, but some of his recordings apparently bring a tear to the eye when they get them played back. We also need to listen out for the sound of Rob's watch, as he lets it rattle on his wrist when he gets physical and Louiza can't stand the noise it makes now. I think today's interview will go exactly the same way. No spoilers and lots of points from SOC to agonise over which will turn into nothing.

Gruach · 29/03/2016 09:52

I'd forgotten I had to remember WH!

I have a BOOP. Easter Grin For Lilian and Justin last night. They sounded so well matched and comfortable together. (Even though I'm somewhat sceptical about Justin's transformation from heartless global tycoon to anxious am-drammer.) I'm hoping for a speedy, painless divorce and a happy marriage that for once doesn't leave poor Lil a widow.

Stickerrocks · 29/03/2016 10:00

I do think we need a little more info on how Lillian has resurrected Amside after Matt did a runner with their money. I know she gets rental income and she has been talking to Justin about restructuring her portfolio, but presumably she had work in progress when Matt disappeared. The cash flow crisis seemed to be very short lived. Did she move into Home farm before or after the flood?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/03/2016 10:02

After, I think. She rented the Dower House to the Snells while Ambridge Hall was refurbished after the flood.

Stickerrocks · 29/03/2016 10:12

[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handsome-Brute-True-Story-Ladykiller/dp/1471101347/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459242507&sr=8-1&keywords=handsome+brute] SOC's inspiration for Rob.

Oh, he's talking about Pat's character transformation now. Louiza thinks Patbot is credible. Jane has raised our point about Ursula being a controlling mother, but us not seeing a controlling father.

Gruach · 29/03/2016 10:15

Goodness Louiza Patikas has a lovely voice - and sounds more mature as herself.

I remember mentioning "Handsome Beast" on the thread ages ago - it did seem possible he'd use it as a model for a TA story.

Loses herself to find herself ... Easter Hmm Which novelist is he channeling now?

redshoeblueshoe · 29/03/2016 10:15

Yes I'm wondering if Jane is on here

northender · 29/03/2016 10:21

Jane G must definitely be on here

Putthetulipsthere · 29/03/2016 10:24

So glad JG brought up Pat!

Stickerrocks · 29/03/2016 10:25

Can we search regular poster's history to find out who got involved in the "how often do you change your sheets" threads a few weeks ago and if anyone commented on how they refuse to change bedding between visitors.

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