Helen is drowning in the Cow Pat of Destiny. Please SWs - when will it be curtains for Rob?

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Come on Kirsty!

Knob didn't just persuade Tom to move to Canada, he remained in telephone contact with him all the time he was away when no one else had a clue where he was - including Pat and Tony who thought they'd lost another son (in fact didn't Tom's absence coincide with the arrival of Rich/John). I'm surprised Tom hasn't somehow revealed this. I can hear real Pat's voice when she finds out: "Let me get this clear Rob, you're telling me that all the time Tom was away and we were beside ourselves with worry you said nothing?" What Patbot would say is: "Oh Rob that must have been so hard for you I can see that."

Rob also dragged them all into a strip club on stag night, much to Ian's disgust. He was very 'blokey' that night.
Jolene found out who had put Kenton on that train and vowed to keep an eye on Rob but never followed up.

He has been an utter shit to their whole family and they don't even realise. Really is about time the scales started falling off their eyes.

I thought pat was on the right track but then it all went wrong. Ugh

Yes I agree. It would be more realistic if he were utterly charming to everyone bar Helen. But he's stitched a few people up. Totally agree as well with the point about personality make overs to develop a story line in order to educate us.

I did wonder if Peggy might be the one to see through the Emperor's new clothes. There was talk of her giving money to the grandchildren which she didn't mind if they are doing sensible investments. If HellRob go back with the begging bowl then she might start asking searching questions.
Although I really hope that it doesn't end up with Peggy being the perceptive one. I can't stand it when she gets all self-important and matriarchal.

Also Lynda, of all people, was present at an event last summer when Rob gave Jim yet another vicious tongue-lashing.
I wouldn't have thought Lynda would have forgotten that. Pat, at the time, praised Rob for it. Was it the outdoor opera?
I have never understood why Jim has suffered verbal abuse from Rob twice and yet seems to have joined in the collective amnesia.

Yes, enoch, it was at the opera, the day after the rape. I'd forgotten that Lynda was there though.

Time to revisit our list of People With Good Reason to Hate Knob?

Charlie (Leader even in absentia)
Tom
Tony (cricket cheating)
Kenton (+ Jolene)
Jim
Adam
Ian
David (knows about the blocked culvert)
Jenny-darling - as above
Ed? (can't remember why, though)
Lynda

Neil - cricket umpire
Pat'Tone - not invited to their daughter's wedding
Shula - the sab
Kirsty - a billion reasons
anyone who was at Jess's housewarming party
Fallon - tried to wreck her fledgling business
Bridge Farm - made their organic shop into an antiseptic supermarket-clone
Emma - ruined friendship between Em & Hel / Kiera & Henry
Rowan - what's happened to her and childcare sharing

Peggy's huge belief in Rob has been very disappointing, it seems to me that she has forgotten that all men aren't perfect, despite having been married to an alcoholic (first husband Jack Archer, Phil's & Christine's brother).

would be more realistic if he were utterly charming to everyone bar Helen.

I actually think this would be less realistic. Most people like him find it hard to keep the veneer up all the time.

The Grundy family all seem to think he's a knob

Nice to see The Archers attracting attention in France!

And here's another article about Hel/Rob from Standard Issue (which I've never heard of but article seems fine).

Knob was also very snappy with Auntie Cardboard when he 'rescued' her during the flood that he caused - He positively barked at her when she dithered about getting into the boat admittedly she would try the patience of a saint

I've mentioned before on these threads that he was vile to Johnny, and then sneered about him to Oliver (who, to my great disappointment, merely laughed in matey fashion when Knob said something hateful about Johnny bring dim and needing to be told what to do).

He's verbally dissed almost everybody he ever talks about, of course, although not in their hearing. He can't mention a name without saying something nasty, dismissive or contemptuous, or indeed all 3, accompanied of course by the famous laugh. The wonder is that apparently nobody else has noticed this and thought 'hang on, that Rob Titchener is an arse, isn't he? Why is he so horrible about everyone? He's a twat.'

2 things:

Didn't Peggy tell Tony when they reconciled after his accident that she was changing her will back so that he got the Lodge rather than it going directly to Helen? Does Rob know this?

I wish they would stop having Peggy be such an old cow about Christine - all that sniping about how she was talking through the radio play. Why invite her to live with you if she annoys you so much, you old bag?

Shula told Oliver and Caroline about the Sab incident.
Harrison also knows about that and, along with David, saw him being an utter arse as the flood waters rose. Rob refused to help.
David and Jennifer know about the culvert blocking from Stefan. (I can't believe this has been dropped.)
Ed saw him remove the rubbish washed into the ditch which Ed was very suspicious about.
I find it hard to credit that Shula and Jim haven't compared notes in the past year.

OTOH, Shula, Alistair and Christine were rescued by him, albeit very churlishly and because he was lost and had no choice.
He's been putting it about that he's helped with the village hall refurb.
He's been a saint looking after Helen & Henry, hinting that he was managing Berrow better than Charlie, 'helping' with the shop sacrificing his own 'career'.

I seem to remember Peggy explicitly telling Helen and Rob that she'd changed her mind about her will - and Rob saying something snippy which prompted her to respond that she'd hope he would want to support his family himself. (But I may have mixed up different episodes.)

Yes, I'm pretty sure the will got changed back, but other than Peggy telling everyone, it wasn't really talked about - and why would it be? She's just as likely to change it again, and it could all change again before it has to be executed. It wasn't the will per se which was talked about before, but what it represented - how she felt about Tony and didn't trust him as a responsible adult.

Good articles Gruach.

I do love the description of David & Ruth as "bombardés héros d’un « soap opera agricole » sans fin."

However I think that some at the BBC might disagree with the description of R4 as "the main BBC radio station" !

I remember peggy changing her will in Tony's favour - Hellin didn't care but knob was most put out "on your and Henry's behalf darling".

I might have to stop listening for same reasons as Marilyn.

That's true - Peggy wasn't impressed with robs response to the will change.

She can be a canny old bird so I'm hoping he asks her for more money and she says no and then he tries to threaten her as she's a little old lady. Then Peggy can tell him where to go and discuss it with Tony

I suppose a year ago Helen took the view that Peggy's money would come to her and Tom eventually and meanwhile she has an income of her own and Rob to take care of all their needs because he has a good job.

That was then!

Now he's got no job. The income she had is now his and that's all they have coming in.

I was wondering if the Kate asking her for money thing was a lead up to Rob asking her for money as well so as not to worry Helen. I'd like to see Peggy getting the measure of him!