Badly done Helen, badly done - you're as stuffed as a Grundy turkey. Discuss The Archers here.

[PseudoBadger]

New thread in time for Friday's episode...

Perhaps Harrison will do some detecting and work out how to get fingerprints off the corpse, and reveal it was Knob what done it?

I don't think Rob put Scruff's body in the silo but I do think he may prove to have been negligent about ensuring the silo was cleared out properly after the flood. Surely it has to be his fault somehow?

Thanks for the new thread, Pseudo!

Fallon's noticed there is something wrong with Hellin. I predict she and Knob are going to have a huge row over the farm shop cafe. Am I remembering wrong or didn't he say he didn't want her selling her up cycled tat (which is the whole point of her business). It's going to be another blow for Ed since Emmur has already packed in her job at Brookfield - and made a speech about how marvellous it will be to be using her skills again which almost certainly guarantees she won't be (rather like HP's there's no place like Brookfield speech before she threw in the towel at Trowell).

Ebear I think what Gruach was getting at was that it was probably significant that the body parts were specifically said to be the back end of the dog, rather than the front end with collar and/ or microchip, making identification possible.

Yes, indeed!

It's a while since I've been responsible for a dog so I'm guessing all the identitech is at the front end? (Dread to think what's become of the unfound parts of the poor animal.) So this is just a way to keep us guessing a little longer.

The Many Uses of a Dead Dog ...

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Silo

*disclaimer - I have 2 much loved dogs, and a dark sense of humour

I've only just caught up with the archers. So a belated

Scruff ... Scruff

Is there any chance Fallon will mention her concerns about Helen to Harrison? Would he pick up on Rob being abusive?

Do we think Rob could actually be an axemurderer dog murderer/ butcher.

Dreadful thought!
If Rob's implicated he might say Eddie put the dog there when E cleared the ditches on Charlie's instructions after the flood.

But come to think about it, Ed was bothered that the rubbish had all been taken away by Rob......

Haven't listened yet but looking forward to some parts of it at least. I just can't see that even the rubbish clearing thing is related to Scruff, more the culvert blocking misdeed, but my silage knowledge is very poor and so I am off to brush up...

Right, so is it possible that Rob is to blame because he cut corners cleaning the silage clamp (is it?) before the fresh silage went in in April. Is that a possibility. Would there be a possibility of legal action if it was Rob's fault (as they cannot now take disciplinary action). Or I am woefully misunderstanding.

Oh crikey Thanks for the new thread psuedo

Yes Lynda get Berrow closed down!!!!! Hooray!!!!

My phone corrected silage to silo

Oh Scruff (foolishly upset about a fictional dog that I had never heard about before he vanished)

I meant Ed cleared the ditches, not Eddie.

Of course Ed would have told Lynda if he'd found her dog's body in a ditch.

I don't see how a dog could get into a silage silo so the body must have been put there. I assume they are sifting the rest of the silage for the other parts of the dog.

Where do they microchip dogs? Any chance it could be on the thigh?

Back of the neck, Enoch.

Ah, yes. Where they can't bite it out.

I've realised I've been hearing about silage for decades on TA but I really haven't a clue about what it is, how it's made or how it's stored. First thing I found on google is this video from a US dairy farm that makes vast quantities of silage from maize. There's talk of a pit but it looks to me more like a heap - is it really just a giant compost heap? Would Berrow Farm have something like this (not as big, I imagine)?

(The video has no commentary but it does have a rather intrusive music soundtrack so turn your volume off if you don't want to hear it or you are at work.)

Microchips can migrate. Rare, but it does happen.

Just popping into the Bull for a drink not place marking at all obviously.

If Scruff's body was lying in the field that was cut for silage, that would explain how it got into the clamp - the body was hoovered up, or whatever, with the cut grass. But if Scruff died during the flood, in Feb, and silage is cut in warmer months, would the body have decayed past the point where it would be able to generate botulism toxins?

Can't believe that I am thinking about such things.

Feeling a bit callous having caught up with yesterday's and the thread as I didn't shed any tears over Scruff; instead laughed and cheered for the predictive brilliance of the mn over-infested.

Poor old Fallon and Emma though. Apart from the screens, which sounded annoying and confusing, I was quite excited at the prospect of the Ambridge Tea Room (despite really not being a fan of old crap covered in chalk paint up cycled stuff). I imagine they didn't get much in the way of a formal agreement or contract in place, so could be stuffed. Sounds like Rob is envisaging a kind of Sainsburys cafe on the side of his clinical tinned tomatoes and vitamins warehouse. Perhaps F can go to Tom and get him on side?

Perhaps F can go to Tom and get him on side?

I expect it'll come out in a chance conversation in the pub.

Fallon: "Tom, I'm so gutted you've changed your plans for the cafe, and we can't have it now. I don't know what we're going to do and Emma quit her cleaning job already, and Ruth says they can't afford to take her back at the moment anyway."

Tom: "What are you on about, changed plans?"

I'm sure we had a huge discussion about silaging and silos and silage pits several threads back, though I can't remember what prompted it. gaspode silage is usually clamped in a pit these days, yes more like a compost heap.

toomuch I have just asked DH and he says a small dog might go through the forage harvester and come out recognisable, depending on the type of machine and sharpness of the cutter. What kind of dog was scruff? I can't help thinking looking for a corpse of any kind is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack and it's just as likely that any collar or microchipped part could already have been taken from the clamp and chopped up even further and completely beyond any recognition by the feeder wagon.