Badly done Helen, badly done - you're as stuffed as a Grundy turkey. Discuss The Archers here.

[PseudoBadger]

New thread in time for Friday's episode...

Well maybe he merely found poor drowned Scruff next morning and slung the body. Negligent and callous.

(I prefer the dog-murderer idea though.)

Isn't that making him a little bit too cardboard cutout baddie?

Next he will be caught sucking pins in kittens eyes and snatching sweets from Henry's friends

Yes, I think slinging the body is more likely (always assuming that Berrow did make their own silage - but then again, Knob could have slung the body onto someone else's fields. We shall probably never know).

It's just occurred to me, but has Helen had to rush off to be sick since she told Knob she was pregnant? Are the SWs not mentioning this out of some Victorian miss type delicacy (unlikely in view of the half a dog corpse they served up tonight) or have they forgotten, or is it Significant?

Miscarriage?

I'll go against the grain and be glad to see the end of all the TA fan witterings about Scruff.
He's dead now shut the feck up about him.
Perhaps Rob is the man for me?

I am impressed by your efforts but I can't see how Rob can realistically be linked to scruff. We need there to be forensic evidence.

If Rob had anything at all to do with it it is more likely that he either didn't arrange for the clamp to be cleaned or he didn't check the silage before it went into the clamp.

I'll sit with you on the 'couldn't give a stuff about scruff' bench Rebecca

So you're having a "stuff scruff" huff?

I did wonder what use Pip will get out of a fountain pen though as she's a farmer - can't see a farm office being the sort of place to use anything but a biro tbh.

What exactly is a suitable place for a fountain pen? I use mine, given to me at the end of my uni placement, for cards, letters, and other writing tasks - shopping lists, dd's reading record... It lives on my desk in the house rather than out in the farm office as I don't want it 'borrowed' when there are no other pens but if it was out there I would use it for any writing I did out there too! In fact if I'm signing an important letter I would probably go and get it.

Back to silage... I think, if Rob is responsible for scruff in the silage, that he wouldn't necessarily realise the consequences, or think of botulism... But the timing is a bit off for me... Flood was Feb, silage is made April onwards. Silage pits are usually swept out before the fresh silage goes in, so a dog corpse would have been seen. It's not like it was the next day. Haven't listened to tonight's yet though, will report back if it makes more sense after I listen!

Of course it still might not be Scruff...???

(Wishful thinking. I want him to come bounding back, barking, like Lassie!)

In the buff, flashing my muff! (except that I live in Scotland so the only muff likely to be on display is the fur lined Russian variety)

Maybe he didn't get the silage pits swept.

Ah thanks for finding that R4

Marking place. Off on holibobs next week so massive catch up due when I get back.

Thankyou Pseudo.

Place marking too! Am actually on holiday (with disappointing weather) but got a bit of wifi tonight so thought I'd check in.

Thanks BoreofWhabylon for championing me as the one who called "Scruff in the silage" first . I pretty much knew I'd be collecting my winnings tonight when I heard the " Charlie makes a discovery" intro and the very heavy signposting of Lynda being so vocally anti-dairy.

FWIW loving the Rob as dog-killer scenarios unthread but I don't think that there will be a connection to Rob as far as this is concerned. I think that the SW just thought that it would be good dramatic irony for Lynda's dog to be the cause. And I bet they will kick themselves if they ever read about the massive silage-timing hole in their plot identified by our own agricultural storage advisor DWF.

Poor Lynda, obviously not her fault and now doubly sad that both Scruff and about 70 cows are dead. My next prediction- they will confirm it was Scruff via his microchip (if they ever find his front half, that is.)

And on a separate note, go Fallon! Get the rest of the village to wise up to the knobbishness of Knob.

CuttedUp - you make it sound as if wifi is a weather condition: "there will be patchy wifi in low-lying areas overnight, with sporadic Mumsnet connection moving in from the east. Tomorrow, iPlayer will be responsive at first but give way to scattered buffering."

I'd have thought Scruff would have had a collar with a tag with a phone number on, too.

Not on his hind leg though.

Fair point. But I'm willing to bet that the collar will be in what remains of the silage.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BE SCRUFF

So the body parts found are significant precisely because they won't immediately provide any clue as to identity?

They're significant because they show a reason for the botulism outbreak - and if it does date back to the flood, then it's Rob's mismanagement rather than Charlie's. But by the time that all comes out, Adam will have comforted Charlie in his bed anyway.