The Cheese Queen needs to tread Caerphilly. Camembert the tension? Join The Archers thread and hope it gets Feta from here on.

[PseudoBadger]

Sorry but I couldn't resist an opportunity for puns galore

The illegal thread is still going. I've given up trying to have them all arrested and deported if they refuse to communicate through the proper channels.

One of the rebels called this thread obsessive

I tried to feel offended. But utterly failed. I like being obsessive about TA.

Obsessive, ha!
Don't they know we are overinfested?

Thanks Gaspode Oooh new people WELCOME and masons not so welcome unless they hang themselves on their own petards .

It went through my mind that it will be Dave who SOTMC (well someone did mention that the actor is bored with his character). Perhaps we should think up some ways to make Dave more interesting! But pleeese not in the way Cameron has become more infamous The SWs won't have to get rid of him then. (I like him).

Why is Elizabeth so useless at understanding what makes her mother happy?

Yes lljkk Why didn't Liz say "But you can make the Sunday lunch".

Why hasn't Jill chucked Carol out of her own cottage and moved back in?

And why is Jill's only contribution to society making bloody casseroles for her ungrateful family?

The woman has been utterly exploited-no doubt she'll be drafted in to care for HP by the end of the week!

Everyone has a soft spot for Carol... I think I'm liking C more & more, too.

Jill doesn't like to live alone; she likes to be useful & needed & busy. It baffles me why she isn't still going up to Brookfield daily to help out, that would be easy enough while also living "out" at LL. Best of both worlds.

To be fair Jill's family are grateful, campion But like you lljkk I wonder why she can't go to BF every day or every other day at least to look after the chickens and bees.

Mind you she could just say she'll do it couldn't she?

ok... and next question: did Helen run off to puke during the meal out when Rob was talking about how to get PR? Why is Helen dragging her feet suddenly at the PR/Adoption idea when she puts up with so much other crap Rob dishes out (including at Henry)?

Is it Hell's own control issue, she wants to be everything important to Henry? Or when it comes to Henry's wellbeing she can't suppress after all the memories of what a Git R. can be?

Having PR is (finally) the reality check that Rob will have control over both of them, but, potentially, it could be worse for Henry.Helen could walk away-Henry can't.

Henry is hers, not his, and deep down,her instincts tell her that Rob is not who she wants for her son.

Sounds like I need to do some catching up. Thankyou for the new thread Pseudo.

Has anyone linked to this yet? www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/sep/26/actor-who-plays-archers-villain-in-shock-at-social-media-onslaught

Listening to the film, I was very struck by how implausible it is that Lizzie is encouraging Jill to help herself to tea and coffee from the cafe. Surely LL is a limited company (if not a trust) and so she's stealing from the company. (I know someone else mentioned this upthread but it's another example of really bloody sloppy writing).

I also thought raising a glass to Grace was bloody odd when everyone knows how difficult Jill is finding having the Fairbrethren back in the village. Talking of them, is that restaurant they've got to take some geese within 10 miles of Grey Gables ie has Toby already already broken the terms of the agreement he made with Iain?

SOC “Originally, Rob Titchener was brought in as a replacement for Brian Aldridge, a ladies’ man. But when I heard him on air with Helen it ignited something in my mind.” (From the Guardian article. Thanks Lynda.)

Now I understand! I distinctly recall complaining about how bland Rob seemed when he first appeared. So I was puzzled when we all started to see his evil face. But now it transpires that the editor himself didn't know who Rob was at the beginning.

Goodness me.

A replacement for Brian Aldridge. Is that even possible?

DDD it will haunt you forever and ruin any future political careeer you planned...oh no hang on a minute you'll be fine

Interesting article where actor says he has to decide what he has done and play it accordingly. Especially if it turns out SWs think he did something different.

And yy I think Hel realises she may have made her bed but she has no r8fht to do the same to Henry. (And of course she doesn't have to lie in it either but is yet to realise that)...wondet if tgey did any of their research on MN.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't alarm bells start ringing about Rob before SOC took over from VW? Kirsty being so uncomfortable in her role opposite him in the panto and his treatment of Jess?
Now SOC is claiming the development of Rob was his idea!

When was SOC take over?

New Year 2014 - after the panto where he and Kirsty were cast as the romantic leads and after the infamous salmon incident. He was already a baddie before SOC came along.
Even SOC seemed surprised in a fairly recent Feedback prog that Rob was being perceived as an abuser so the SL wasn't his idea.

I guess we'd have to know at exactly what point SOC started to have some influence over the SLs. I'd find it hard to believe that everything was someone else's idea until a specific hour on a specific day.

But I agree the evidence suggests the editor was somewhat dragged along under the wheels of the Hel/Rob chariot.

Jill should be given a job in the Orangery.

Rob was seen as a baddy when he first arrived because he was married but shagging Helen, hence Kirsty's distrust. God, do you remember H back then? All "I know what I'm doing Rob, it's my decision, I'm a woman of the world..."

I think what SOC was so surprised about was the audience picking up on every little detail and working out the direction of the story long before they expected us to. Vanessa Whitburn never seemed to get that either, but to be fair the dilettantes occasional listeners probably need a lot more signposting than nerds dedicated types like me who never miss an episode and ensure we can listen uninterrupted by banning the rest of the family from speech during transmission.

The Ambridge Observer is vg this week, with a lovely poem by Bert

ambridgeobserver.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/jill-moves-out-rob-moves-in-eddie-tells.html?m=1

Gaspode I so identify with your listening style. Both DCs have been trained since birth to be silent when they hear the theme tune. In fact DS has been known to come up to me at 7pm if we are out (or 8pm since we've been back in Paris) and quietly point out that TA is starting!! Thank goodness for the podcast!

When ds heard the theme tune he says 'bedtime'. He's 8!

I feel very, very slightly guilty (almost infinitesimally) that on one of my son's birthdays he had had a party and once the feral delightful young guests had departed I sneaked off to the kitchen to listen to TA. It turned to be a seminal episode - the one where Debbie worked out who Siobhan's new baby's father was (ie that Brian was Ruairi's father). During the broadcast my son sidled into the kitchen and indicated by dumb show that he wanted a packet of crisps. I nodded and waved him out of the room as soon as humanly possible. He doesn't seem to hold it against me, but it is a major disappointment that neither he nor his sister have the slightest interest in listening to TA so far. There is time yet - they're only in their early 20s. [grim emoticon of maternal obsession goes here]