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Don't blame it on a Grundy, don't blame it on Route B, don't blame it on Sean O'C, blame it on the badgers. Discuss The Archers of Prudhoe here.

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PseudoBadger · 03/11/2014 15:40

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DadDadDad · 11/11/2014 23:13

This is an actuarial post, so ignore if you only interested in The Archers

Yes, helena, I just searched for your name on MN (sorry if that sounds stalkerish, it was just meant to be a quick way to settle this) and can more or less guess the companies your DH has worked for - or at least come up with a short enough list that makes me think that our paths haven't crossed much, so he's safe from being "outed" by me.

On topic of calculators - no, I think we tend not to carry them: we're a bit beyond adding up columns of figures, and our models need at least access to a spreadsheet. And like mathematicians, some of us like doing the more theoretical stuff where numbers hardly appear. I was in one talk at conference today, where the speaker put up a slide with an extremely complicated formula that more or less filled the slide (multi-dimensional probability distribution incorporating integration and plenty more). He said: "I'm just putting this up there for you to look at later, if you are one of those actuaries who likes working these things out in your spare time . I know I am." This is a community where we like difficult maths! (But self-aware enough to know that it's a bit geeky and crucially that we need to relate it to the real world and communicate the underlying ideas in plain English to management etc).

Basketz - your question is really one about heterogeneity in risk groups, and is really a question for a pricing actuary. But yes, some in our profession do consult medical experts, and where it matters we will identify whether there are medical conditions that we should allow for in our pricing. But this would also be dependent on underwriters, ie those whose role it is to say put individuals into broad classes set by the pricing actuaries, based on asking appropriate questions. You can imagine that a wealthy person applying for a large life insurance policy might be subject to detailed underwriting, where the underwriters would use manuals of medical conditions to come up with any loadings in the premium they charge (or decline to provide cover altogether). But for travel insurance it's not going to be economic to be so precise, and people will get lumped together. In your case, it may just be worth shopping around, to see if different insurers treat you differently.

unitarian · 12/11/2014 00:43

Cherish those budding historians! I did my best to bring up my DD to be into literature and history but she went all geeky and scientific on me.
It was a bit like a cast-change in TA! If she didn't have my nose and her Dad's knees I'd doubt her parentage.

I feel mightily relieved now that Jim and Linda have had a credible conversation in the shop with a bit of bitching and gossip as well as actually forming a sensible plan to stop the Road. The locals might be accepting it as inevitable but a couple of in-comers will put up a fight. That's quite realistic!

The curious thing is that the locals have sort of re-shuffled themselves into an mutually satisfactory arrangement and the in-comers are now going to succeed and scupper their cosy new plans.

JD can't possibly be thinking of leaving her new kitchen though so I wonder what the plans are for the B'field farmhouse. If I were Ruth that would be my first question.

Of course Carol is going to be the one who just happens to utter in dulcet tones that Jill doesn't want to move and so David and Ruth will withdraw the farm from the market.

We will know beyond doubt that the SWs read this if there's a mention of actuaries in the next few weeks. I bet Jim has an old friend who is a retired actuary that he can rustle up to help with the traffic stats - though I'm sure real actuaries don't do anything so mundane.

Icimoi · 12/11/2014 06:30

How come Knob"s allowed Hellin's to take part in a play? I can't see Lynda casting him as Charles after last year's effort, and he'd hate the prospect of her acting opposite anyone else.

It would be good to think that he'll do his best to undermine her again and Lynda will step in in defence of her production and tell Hellin that she's being gaslighted.

Minimammoth · 12/11/2014 08:07

I am a spasmodic poster and unashamedly posting this to mark my place. I read the thread regularly but am missing a lot of Archers broadcasts, I need a catch up, but for the record I find the Hellrob sl, a cringe listen, please someone step in, push him in the cow crush or something. I like to think in a real life scenario Hel's friends would be pointing things out. Come back Kirsty. Would Tom even notice?

trevortrevorslattery · 12/11/2014 09:23

Ugh last night's episode really annoyed me. Jim and Lyndipops are going to get the road called off completely because the council's figures don't stack up... riiiiiiiight. Because obviously the Highways Agency / central government just give the go-ahead to schemes without doing any checks. SO STUPID.

And how ridiculous that they have just "remembered" about the unfortunately-named brown hairstreak makes me think of horrible old underpants with skidmarks in .

Grah.

I reckon we are setting up for a family feud. Brine tries to be cheeky and negotiate a cheap price for Brookfield leading to a massive falling-out with Deeevid and Ruth. Then the sinkhole scuppers Route B and Heather FOTMC Grin. So D&R stay put but now hate Brine and JD. Lots of mileage in that I would think.

trevortrevorslattery · 12/11/2014 09:28

Oh and Lillian the only reason I am listening to TA at the moment is so I can come and join in the chat on here too!

BitOutOfPractice · 12/11/2014 10:33

TBH I'm being put off posting here because it's all so negative

unitarian · 12/11/2014 10:36

Cathy has been relegated to being a never-speaker like Sabrina.

Presumably Helen has said yes to Linda without checking first with Rob.

Does Jenny own half of everything Brian owns?

ppeatfruit · 12/11/2014 10:44

I agree that teenagers and 20agers are not keen on moving,ours had the option of going to Fr part time too, (the 18 yr old chose to stay with friends rather than accompany us and he's the most reasonable one Grin) We still get grief for it Sad

But the rest is believable if you streeeetch your belief systems a bit Grin.

unitarian · 12/11/2014 11:29

Trevor The bit about the traffic stats rings true to me. I've been trying to no avail to get our local authority to provide statistical proof of one of its major assertions around which far-reaching policy is decided to our detriment.

R4 · 12/11/2014 11:43

Does Jenny own half of everything Brian owns?

That usually the way it works in marriage! Especially such a long one.

How much have the Dopeys spent on brochures and agency fees to then realise that their ideal buyer is their NDN, who knows the land like the back of their hand and is family. D'oh.

ZeroSomeGameThingy · 12/11/2014 11:44

BOOP I'm happy to join in some positive Archers chat. (Though I'm on a train so will probably disappear quite soon.)

I actually find all the outrage (including mine) and the increased publicity quite energising, Rather like my sleepy radio soap being the talk of the town and don't mind it being shaken up.

ppeatfruit · 12/11/2014 11:52

Yes I agree Zero, and as you can tell from my reaction to John Peel I am NOT a lover of all things new Grin

R4 · 12/11/2014 11:58

There's a difference between being shaken up and shaken out of all recognition. Take it too far and it's not the thing that you loved any more.

minklundy · 12/11/2014 12:08

if you want a bit of positivity i am still smiling about the post quite a while back about Ambridge being full of conveniently placed microphones. Grin

and I think we will be in for some Grundy christmas SLs which are always good.

as for helRob I like to think in a real life scenario Hel's friends would be pointing things out. actually in real life generally not. most people shy away from interfering in other people's rs unless the 'injured' party actually complains or they start hearing/seeing actual acts of violence. Interfering can actually make it worse. Pat has said the odd thing but as she is seen as 'an enemy of Rob' her concerns are dismissed and she cannot say too much without risking driving H off and further isolating her. H is also doing that classic thing of not repeating most of what R says because deep down she knows it is wrong and is shamed by it and/or suspects it is her fault and no one likes to admit to being stupid.
I don't actually think R is nasty enough though. He has had outbursts in the past- to hellin in the shop, to Jim etc. IME these outbursts usually get more not less frequent.

songbird · 12/11/2014 12:08

Or did BOOP mean everything she wants to say is negative, so isn't posting? In the 'if you can't say anything nice...' vein Grin

PseudoBadger · 12/11/2014 12:22

My intention for this thread (not that I ever had one!) is that it is a warts and all frank discussion. But it will die a death if all we are doing is moaning about it. Perhaps we could go on a non-actuary related tangent?
Favourite long lost character? I always wish i'd listened properly when John was alive.

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AllMimsyWereTheBorogoves · 12/11/2014 12:24

Favourite long lost character: Nelson Gabriel, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

ZeroSomeGameThingy · 12/11/2014 12:31

Nah -she said "being put off ..."

Helen's story seems horribly realistic. Even happy, well adjusted people sometimes start neglecting their friends when they find a man. Rob has just taken advantage of that.

And he's left her parents confused because, as much as they dislike him they're ready to believe he has an evil family who would let him down over a dinner party.

Just imagine being Helen in RL; John dead, Brenda gone, Tom gone, Kirsty gone, even Hayley with whom she must occasionally have interacted. Ian punched Rob so that's hardly going to lead to increased friendship. She's not allowed to play with Emma or her "kids"...

It's true they really didn't need the Jess complication.

cryhavoc · 12/11/2014 13:03

The Helen storyline is being done so well. I'm interested to see what happens with the party this week.

Jim and Lindypops chatting in the shop was great. Proper gossipy.

PetulaGordino · 12/11/2014 13:07

i enjoyed jim and lynda in the shop too - i like hearing both their characters and voices (i ignored some of their topics of conversation Wink)

i'm hopeful that we might get a bit of mungo's first christmas with both grannies in a few weeks' time

ZeroSomeGameThingy · 12/11/2014 13:12

Oh, thank God.

I miss (the original) Dan Archer.

I miss Marjorie Antrobus very much.

I adored Nigel's mum - though I think I was out of R4 contact for much of her reign.

Walter, Nelson, Tom Forrest ...

Thanks for cracking the whip Pseudo Flowers

Icimoi · 12/11/2014 13:24

If they'd bring Matt back from Purdah, especially to tell D and R they're being dickheads, I'd definitely be positive about that.

PseudoBadger · 12/11/2014 13:28

Oh yes I miss Matt Tiger!

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AllMimsyWereTheBorogoves · 12/11/2014 13:38

Marjorie was lovely. Matt much missed too! Whoever thought up Tiger and Pusscat deserves a medal.