They don't let any old Tom, Dick or Henry live in Ambridge - The Archers chat continues

[PseudoBadger]

Hello you two :o

Also it's that whole thing about rewarding the feckless. I was talking to a friend the other day whose husband's wealthy aunt left everything to their youngest cocaine addict child whereas the ones who'd led a fairly dull and blameless life got bugger all.

I don't remember that about Usha, compos, but it wouldn't surprise me.

in the case of my mum's family there is over 15 years between eldest and youngest sibling, so it's basically just a case of the older ones having longer to build up incomes etc

but yes i see what you mean - that sounds like a recipe for disaster!

clearly peggy worries about helen not having a man to support her and henry. does she know about rob yet, i can't remember...

I've missed loads, what happened to moany Jess? Did they have a party, a row, and then she just moved back to Wherever?

I can't bear Helen though, I just want to give her a slap.
Can't bear Rob either or Pat.
Missed the Peggy estate episode, look forward to that.

I think the Archers is at its very very best when dealing with family/wills/fairness/property.

Did Peggy know about Jack's will or was it a surprise?

she's an executor so I reckon she knew!

Peggy doesn't know about Helen and Rob yetWillie. Pat and Tony were discussing that before they went round to see Peggy - they decided to put off telling her for a while

ah yes

i'm looking forward to her having an Opinion

MrsJavierBardem (or should I call you Penny?) Jess was seen packing up her car just before Christmas (possibly by Tom) and hasn't been seen since, apparently she decided to go back to her mother's in Hampshire. She & Rob hosted a Christmas drinks party to get to know everyone and it was a complete disaster with Rob being horrible to her. She made poached salmon and covered it with cucumber 'scales' and they had a big row at the end of the evening and she dropped it.

I think Peggy said that she & Jack had sorted out his will before he went into the Laurels.

I agree that she has treated the other grandchildren unfairly. I don't know why Tony thought he would be left a lot of money (he mentioned to Pat how nice it would be to be mortgage free) when his mother's husband died, it would have been different if Jack Woolley had been his own father & Peggy had also died.

Peggy's bound to find out about Hellin'n'Rob soon isn't she? Someone's surely going to mention it?

I'm quite impressed with the archers at the mo - from being super-dull, it's finally got quite exciting!

Cor, crikey and Blimey all the expletives I haven't listened to last night's yet but it has definitely shaken this thread to the core!!!! I'm going to have to listen again now aren't I?

Peggy said at the solicitor's meeting that she already knew the terms of the will.

But what was Peggy's reason for giving so much to Tom? Did she explain?

Sos, had family here, missed it.

Him not having a wealthy father was her main concern, according to what she said about Jennifer & Lilian's financial status

There is so much wrong with that reasoning!

yeah but what about Helen? Or is the house seen as equivalent to Tom's wedge?

We weren't informed what Tom's wedge is worth

but in any case it sounded as if a roof over the poor innocent dear's head was what Peggy was concerned about

David and Ruth were discussing inheritance at one point. I think it was when Josh became more interested in the farm.
I think up to then they had assumed that Pip would inherit eventually and her brother's would go for alternative careers.
Although if Pip ends up marrying a farmer, then they may decide that is her settled.

Part of my family didn't talk to the other half after my Great Grandmother died in 1945.

The wonderful thing about this is that there is only person who is going to be happy (Tom). Everybody else has something to be offended about.

Lilian and Jennifer (and Brian and Matt) - nothing for their offspring, and they get nothing either - they don't need the money, as Peggy pointed out, but we all know that feelings can run very high in these circumstances. I can't see any of the grandchildren in these two families making any fuss directly but privately I expect several of them will be rather miffed because of Tom. If they'd all been passed over in favour of the Borsetshire Cats' Home, it might have been easier to stomach.

Pat and Tony - they could do with the money but will get nothing and neither of them is ever slow to take offence, especially over the disparity between their material success and Tony's sisters'. They're already unhappy about Tom's plans for the business and they now have very good reason to be worried about Helen. They will be really, really upset about this will.

Helen gets the house, lovely, but she's not being treated equally with Tom, and she won't like that.

Kirsty's hit the jackpot, hasn't she! As somebody said upthread, I wonder what Brenda will think about it all?

Although if Pip ends up marrying a farmer, then they may decide that is her settled.

Yes, that might happen - hope it doesn't, wrong to assume its ok for a woman to be dependent on a man.

Josh seems quite dynamic and Pip seems reasonably sorted now - perhaps they can find some way to make the farm work for both of them. But then there's Ben ... well, surely at least one will disappear abroad or drown in the slurry pit.

Ben might be the Kenton of his generation .

I always forget who the actual "original" Archer sons/daughters are so it was great to get them all in the same room!

Really enjoying the thread together with the show, without the thread I wouldn't be able to keep up.

Sorry if I missed it upthread, I know you mentioned it Gypsy - are Matt & Pusscat OK financially now, and if so, how come?

Lilian's bottomless coffers, I think, Sticky, all based on what she inherited from Ralph Bellamy, her second husband and James's father. Matt is probably getting some money out of Amside to start re-building his personal fortune.

But Peggy isn't dead yet; plenty time to change the will.
Months of moaning by all and sundry : bravo the Archers is at its very best on property n moaning.
Tom will have to go and petition Peggy to change her mind to avoid the whole lot of em going to hell in a handcart of ugly rural murderous hatred.

How much might Peggy be worth?
Hazel could die in a runaway tractor incident.

that was only one lot

there are Phil's offspring too (same generation but somewhat younger)

also Chris's son

Or they could all stop speaking to Peggy and she'll end up leaving it all to the Polish woman and her daughters, that would go down well.

Yes! What does Elona get?