They don't let any old Tom, Dick or Henry live in Ambridge - The Archers chat continues

[PseudoBadger]

Hello you two :o

Graceparkhill. 'low pair' work for Emma like an au pair but less glamorous.

He's practised at manipulating women, isn't he? But I think Pat will be the one that stands up to him.

@ low pair - so true!

Bah - I was a bit disappointed by tonight's episode. I wanted a big Friday night cliff hanger, not the slightly damp squib of Pat's hand wringing

oh come on - this one is going to run and run...

I do love a good villain, and the SWs have served up two - Emotional Abuser Rob and Slitheen Hazel. It's just a shame that there's no earthly reason why the two of them should cross swords.

Rob almost had me fooled into thinking that he and Helen really do love each other. Then he quietly threatened Pat in that slightly scary menacing way he has and I came to my senses. If the scriptwriters get this right it , it could be the best domestic abuse storyline .

That reads oddly , I don't want to glory in a domestic abuse situation but if they are going to do it I want it done realistically.

Has there been a Domestic Abuse storyline in the Archers before?

I've only half listened this week but did I hear Emmur being a tad judgey over Helen's affair with Rob - oh the irony.

Not domestic abuse as such, but when Owen raped Kathy, had she been seeing him? I can't remember the details now.

Indeed MrsCampbellBlack pot...kettle sprang to mind. That and oh you are definitely your mother's daughter.

Owen and Kathy were just friends I think.

Rob is truly chilling.

He is. He will start hitting Helen and she won't know where to turn having burnt her bridges when she leaves home.

No, Owen hadn't been seeing Kathy, but they'd spent time together because of the panto, I think. He'd convinced himself that his attentions would be welcome, as far as I can recall. It was a horrible scene to listen to.

Very much her mother's daughter- a bit jealous and resentful. I think she enjoyed the drama of having 2 men fighting over her but the reality of poverty, returning to live with parents and taking on low pair work has given her an air of perputual envy. Spot on, Grace!

so what about this family gathering at Peggy's on Sunday...??? Any ideas?

Wasn't there Lizzie's boyfriend ages ago? Simon? He hit her I think (and raped her). But that wasn't a slow build a la Trevor Jordache - it was a quick turn from charming to menacing as far as I remember.

That description of Emmur is spot on!

oh yes! Simon Pemberton!

And the one who had a go at both Shula & Debbie?

oh - no - Cameron Fraser was Lizzie's (I've had to google though)

Simon Pemberton was Shula/Debbie's

Simon was a cad, Cameron was a love-rat

Oh yes - thanks NicestSmile - I'm conflating two characters (have also googled!). It was Simon Pemberton who assaulted Debbie. And Cam Fraser who got Lizzie pregnant

I just hope we're right and they don't just turn it into they all live happily ever after. It's such a good storyline with some brilliant acting.

It can't be a happy ever after storyline. I would be so disappointed .It has the potential not just to entertain but to fulfil the Beeb public education remit big time.

That is the first thing I remember, Cameron Fraser dumping a pregnant Lizzie at a motorway service station. The rotter.

The writers must read mn. It's a very chilling EA portrayal.

My EAdar must be well and truly defective then. I thought Rob was being sincere and responsible in his convo with Pat. I think Pat is the controlling one tbh.

Sorry to disappoint you all after my dazzling resume of Emmur.

I will of course come back and apologise when the gaslighting of Helen begins.

How many 'sincere responsible' blokes have their wife apparently due to start work nearby, with discussions about where they should buy a house just before Christmas, and then by mid-January are moving in the OW complete with child who calls you 'Daddy' ?