They're not plucky Tuckers, they're turkey pluckers' sons - Archers festive chat

[PseudoBadger]

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I wonder when it will all kick off

Yes yes Mrs CB. Then she comes back unexpectedly and catches Rob and Helen en flagrante, he then murders her. He is definitely murderer material.

I've got it; Ed. jnr. 'steals' cross puppy and leaves it in shed with Darrell to look after; puppy knocks over heater and runs away; Darrell sozzled and asleep OMG.

There's never been a murder in TA. [slightly creepy level of excitement building up at that idea, Minimammoth!]

I can't decide if I'm a 2nd generation or a 1.5, given that I moved to France (from UK) when I was 6, and feel and sound French in France and English in England (and at bad times, French in England and English in France ). At 6, I can report, with the family I had, you accept what goes on around you.

I suspect that in a family where the parents are actively struggling to assimilate, the children find it harder as well as they are constantly challenged about any traces of the new country in their behaviour. Although this didn't work with the Algerian immigrants to France in the 50s and the subsequent generations. The 3rd generation are more radicalised than the 2nd. France has a very particular situation I suspect.

Also with those Boston brothers, they grew up in a war zone (probably far too fast ), which must make their experiences rather different from the average migrant.

London- what about Paul's death? That was pretty close to being homicide...

I think the Jess/Rob/Helen triangle will play out for ages - could be the Jennifer/Brian/Siobhan story all over again and that went on for ages.

At least Brian is generally charming though and nice to Jennifer, well you know apart from being a serial adulterer

Will is just going to give George a puppy on christmas day and ednemmur will seethe at the unfairness of it all again.

How about Jess stabs Rob with the carving knife as his emotional DV escalates?

Well, that was disappointing.......Jill didn't even drop the cake. Mind you if I hear Ruth say "puddin' " again there will be a murder.........

Gosh, I had noticed that certain episodes were well written, but hadn't realised that they were by an actual proper famous playwright and everything. Well done TA

FWIW, in my experience there's a big difference between generation that arrives in theUK (my gran), first generation born here (my mum and uncle) and second generation born here (me). I think that first generation UK citizens can be particularly aware of the things that areBritish,and look with both affection and a degree of detachment at British life.

Puddin', puddin', puddin'. She only said it once! I was more upset by David announcing that he was going to snog his wife. What a dreary episode. I hoped Lizzy might have a flashback to the night that SATTC but no such luck ...

Well, yes, it was a bit dull, but I comforted myself by remembering the torrid period when Ruth was dallying with Sam in the cowshed and nearly spent a dirty weekend with him in Oxford, and David was being tempted by Sophie the Scarlet Woman. I can't recall how many others in the family know about any of that. I know Usha knows, but does anybody else?

That's exactly what I was doing, LM! And I bet that's what David and Ruth were thinking about too.

T'was dreary. Rob and Jess will go away for Christmas but only Rob will return. He will have 'left' her, carry on with Hellin, the body will be discovered later......

It was just right - they needed a nice, dull, happy Archers party as counterpoint to poor Jess's disaster.

During the latter, Rob (I think thoughtlessly rather than cunning planningly) said he'd be at the Boxing Day Hunt - which he'll now claim was an unbreakable promise, overriding however long his trip to Hampshire with Jess was suppose to last. So he'll either not go, or return in guise of misunderstood H on xmas day evening and seek solace with Helen.

Rather than an explosion i'm going for an accidental asphyxiation for poor old Darrell. Caused by running the gas appliance in an unventilated area. It'll be especially sad as he's decided to move forward positively after Eddie's pep talk last night.

Helen sounds like she is gearing up for a mega meltdown

She has form GypsyFloss. Rob will save her.
Darrell is going to be visited by the Angel Gabriel on Christmas Eve and will be transformed into a positive go getter by Boxing Day.

Carbon monoxide poisoning? Or, if they really pull their fingers out and do a topical insert tomorrow, the cider shed can be blown away like the house in the Wizard of Oz. Darrell will not have Dorothy's good fortune, however, and we will never hear of him again.

Helen has lost her marbles. Any rational person would have reflected on what happened with Rob before and realised that she had had a lucky escape. She can't wait to get embroiled all over again. It can't end well.

Pseudo that sounds like a distinct possibility for Darrell's demise and topical too. Mind you, being blown away like poor old Toto is fairly on trend as well :)

I love Helen when she goes off on one. He has got no idea just how bat shit crazy she can be . Good luck to him, he deserves her.

A couple of points, then off to bed - busy day today, another tomorrow. Wed will be lovely and relaxing here ....... (I hope).

Decades ago, George Barford shot a poacher. Dead. If I recall it correctly, he was cleared of murder. So not a murder as such, certainly a violent deading though. It may have been the early 70s. I recall my mum getting all excited, I was a child!

I can recall David telling his brother that Ruth had an affair, not sure he gave details or said who with. Kenton, being Kenton, was kind and supportive, IIRC, so no doubt he was thinking thoughts. No idea if he told anyone.

I've been thinking on topical inserts - it's been a while since we've had one, non? There have been one or two events lately, like very big national/international events when we expected one and it didn't happen. Budget cuts at the Beeb? My memory being carp, I can't recall now wot they were. I too like BunnyBoilerHelen when she is in BBmode. What I find irritating is her mother's reaction to whatever she does. And it annoys DH, as he is old enuf to remember when Pat had a Welsh accent. Interesting what we were saying a few days ago about how so many don't lose accents, yet Pat lost hers completely.....

Anyway, off to bed now. Yay! Hope all are well, and are all being good for Santa coming.

Do we actually know about that Darryl's due for demolition? Is this some kind of new year disaster insider knowledge? Or are we just going on the NY deaths in the archers over the last few years?

I think it might be wishful thinking about Darrell's demise. Be nice if he could take Shula with him. :o

He is bloody annoying. But there would far fewer Archers characters if we bumped off all the annoying ones.

Duchesse - he wants to die. We're just doing him a kindness :)