They're not plucky Tuckers, they're turkey pluckers' sons - Archers festive chat

[PseudoBadger]

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My mum is a similar age to Jennifer - perhaps I've just eaten it too many times :o (although I do think it's really bland)

oh yes, the gas canisters are a horrible idea. But surely we can't have another Xmas drama death so soon after Nigel-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

I can just hear Nigel's voice now OddFodd.

I thought Jess would be pregnant but now I'm not so sure. The cordial and cheese buying would have been a perfect time to drop that into the conversation in the shop. And watching Helen's head spin

Just caught up... It's awful. Jess so badly wants to be best friends with Kirstie and Helen.

Kirsty might yet become her friend - after all, as she said it's not Jess's fault - Helen is the OW.

I could listen to Jess hero-worshipping Jennydarling, and JD enjoying it but feeling a little bit uncomfortable and unnerved, all day. I'm even warming to the Jess actor's bonkers delivery of the lines and all the ranDOM stresses and strange ... spaces between words. Perhaps they're symptomatic of some sort of awful mental distress brought on by being the child bride of the Master Gaslighter of Hampshire?

Jess seems remarkably thick skinned for someone in a caring profession. If people were as determinedly offhand and unhelpful to me in a small "local" shop I would probably retreat in tears and never go back. But she doesn't seem to notice.

I truly wish they had thought harder about the casting of Jess - because at this stage I still think there's potential for her to become a pillar of the village community long after her worthless husband has disappeared. I'm sure the actress is a perfectly lovely person but she's so, so wrong for the part.

I think at some point Rob's abuse is going to get physical, and Jess will rush crying from the house where she will meet Hellin. There are then two ways for it to go:

1. The scales fall from Hellin's eyes and she realises what a bastard Rob is, and she enthusiastially helps Jess get an injunction and generally joins in kicking him where it hurts.

1. Hellin refuses to believe Rob could ever do such a think but realises this is her chance, encourages Jess to leave and moves in. Whereupon Rob starts slapping Henry around and telling Hellin he needs discipline.

I suspect the SWs will go for no. 2.

I think Rob and Helen are going to resume their affair. Helen is clearly not over him despite him being an arse

Oh no! Remind me - are the turkeys in the shed?

Re the coming conflagration; Darrell may be expendable, the Grundys' Christmas turkey profits are definitely not.

Darrell will knock some cider over onto the turkey's and they will all be inexplicably ruined?

"Darrell will knock some cider over onto the turkey's and they will all be inexplicably ruined?"

Or alternatively, they will be the most delicious turkeys ever produced, and the Grundy's Cider Turkey will become the Ham in Coke de nos jour.......

So Will is also going to get George a new puppy isn't he?

And seriously emmur - ed shot the last puppy - he's not such a wonderful person for finding a new one.

I am loving Eddie being so nice to darrell - him and neil have been the true stars of this storyline.

I think the gas canisters were mentioned enough times to be significant too, maybe not a deading, perhaps a serious injury that he will instantly recover from and it will never be mentioned again and Ellona will rush to his bedside declaring undying love and Darrell will become a pillar of the community

Smoked turkey will be on sale in the shop and Ambridge will be filled with a delicious roast turkey smell for a few days.
Didn't we have a fire not that long ago?

So...both Grundys turn up on the same day to choose a puppy from the same litter thus continuing the sibling rivalry even via their dogs.

heronsfly that sounds about right for the Ambridge Fairy to accomplish in time for Christmas.

I reckon it's what zero said Bout losing turkey's.

Followed by Darrell whining his 10848 version of "I am sorry i didn't mean to" ruin videos/lose my job/scare the horses/get drunk.

I really hope it's not the turkeys- eddie has been so lovely to Jo and to Darrell not to mention with dealing with fallout of Ed v will (albeit you could argue he has his part to play in this), he doesn't deserve more bad luck .

It's all rather ominous.... I always look forward to the seasonal turkey plucking scenes but they do seem to be concentrating on the story this year. It would be too awful if after all their hard work the Grundys are left with nothing.

Also, I've forgotten pretty much everything I ever knew about criminal responsibility (mainly because I only ever really understood it on the night before finals and was generally frantically consulting textbooks on the way to court....) but will the Grundys be guilty of anything if /when Darrell dies on their premises? (Or would his daughters sue in tort for negligence?) It would be different if they didn't know he was there - but they invited him to remain, supplied gas canisters, and poor darling Eddie was happy to claim responsibility for the dead man walking last night......

(It was rather thrilling to have back the old, sensitive, socially aware, delicious Ed that I Emma fell in love with years ago.)

I thought when Ed phoned Eddie to come up to the field,Eddie asked if it was someone in the turkey shed and Ed said no it was the cider shed. So hopefully the turkeys will be safe.

What I don't want is a blaze where one of the brothers ends up in a dramatic rescue of the other. Unless the writers have run out of ideas to keep them feuding and reckon this is the only way to end it , with Ed redeeming himself by saving Will.

It would be no loss if the other Grundy brother should die a hero's death saving the family profits from the flames....

Pseudo did you plan this?......

Ooooh, x'd but same idea!

So what could this mean?

Darrell as a red herring, not dying himself but being the cause of the far more significant death of (please god let it be) Will?

Because we haven't yet seen the cause of Nic and George's taking to religion.....

I wish this hadn't come into my head.

i usually just lurk on this thread, but i was dying for jess last night listening to her saying something like 'you've both been so helpful, i really feel like i've had the personal treatment' when H and K were being so off-hand. was she genuinely feeling that or was she trying to become BFFs with them? and then later when they were talking about going to the nightclub... agree Zero that she is pretty thick-skinned!

i feel like Kirsty should be nicer to Jess but maybe she can't be in front of helen

also, what would a dog rescue / breeder would say if they found out that someone trying to buy a puppy had recently shot and killed a dog?! i doubt E+E would mention it, but surely that would be a massive red flag if they did

Oh don't worry sensible Neil will come to see Darryl and realise that there's a disaster waiting to happen (notice that both Ed snr and jnr. are too stupid to think through the gas cannister threat).

It'll happen (if it does ) when Jess is taking her leftover salmon to homeless Darryl after all the turkeys are gone, they've nearly all gone now anyway haven't they? and that'll put pay to 2 annoying characters at once,oh i nearly forgot Jack is also hiding in the shed after escaping from his home. So that makes 3 then !!!!