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Don't be a Lonely Cow! Come and join in with The Archers chat

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PseudoBadger · 01/08/2013 10:10

New thread!

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curlew · 09/09/2013 15:24

As I said - I will put money on Jess being Jesse.

WipsGlitter · 09/09/2013 15:43

Why is Roootth so cross at David inviting the college person to come and help with the cows??

LondonMother · 09/09/2013 15:58

Because the megadairy is anathema to Ruth and by extension so is Rob. The cows were brought halfway across the world in luxury coaches* and ushered into their new quarters, with no foreknowledge of the fact that this was the last time they would ever see the sky or feel the grass under their hooves.

*That's how I think of it, anyway.

kiriwawa · 09/09/2013 15:59

Wips - because the college person works for evil Rob of the megadairy (aka big farma) and so they too are tainted by evil. Roooth would rather her cow die I presume Confused

For some reason, I didn't understand your Jess/Jesse post the other day curlew Blush but hmm, you could have a point

ErrolTheDragon · 09/09/2013 17:30

Roooth would rather her cow die I presume

She did realise that it had worked out well TBF.

lljkk · 09/09/2013 18:41

Kathy was 40 when Jamie was born (she agonised over having an amnio) so must be late 50s now, nearly 60. She's best mates with Pat who passed 60 last yr, iirc.

I love the fact that so few are high achievers. The demographics & life outcomes heavily reflects the folk of villages near where I live (bit too many people of colour and other non-English, though). The part I don't get is how many dairy herds there are, and how many eateries (LL, GG, Golf course, The Bull). Can't think of any real village with so many places to eat!! Lucky to find one over-priced Spar in our villages, and any pub or cafe, if it does serve food, only has retired folk in at lunch times. Few people of working age work locally. The economic activity levels are generally too high, doesn't ring true to me. If it was that busy it would have own school in the village. Need a lot more commuters & many fewer local workers to be real.

OliviaMMumsnet · 09/09/2013 18:44

What do you mean Jess is Jesse?
He refers to her as she and his wife etc?

NB I reckon those hungarian cows came from a megadairy anyhoo

ErrolTheDragon · 09/09/2013 19:03

I thought there was a new development somewhere in ambridge where the commuters live - they aren't heard because they don't get involved in village life (which is pretty realistic).

WhatSheSaid · 09/09/2013 19:05

Lewis! Blimey, we don't hear him very often any more.

Somethingyesterday · 09/09/2013 20:39

LondonMother I was boasting today about not yet being "officially" middle-aged. And then you go and label me an "older listener".ShockGrin

Whenever I mention Pollly there is a deafening silence - so I may well be the only person here who remembers her. She was lovely. And her death was terrible. And I love the fact that so many people haven't heard of Lucy.

Re Jess/e I pity the poor SWs. They should have realised that keeping us dangling like this could only lead to magnificent speculation. It will be impossible for her / him to live up to our expectations.

lljkk I'm fairly certain LL is in a different village. BTW I am determined not to ask for clarification of your "demographics" sentence. (Because I'm probably being pedantic...)

OliviaMMumsnet · 09/09/2013 21:14

LL surely is in its own grounds as is GG, no?
Just outisde the village?

WipsGlitter · 09/09/2013 22:16

map of ambridge

WhatSheSaid · 09/09/2013 22:25

I just googled those maps too :). GG is in Ambridge but Lower Loxley is a separate place (you can see it on the Borsetshire map on that link).

I am ignoring the maps of some imposter Ambridge, apparently in Pennsylvania.

DownyEmerald · 09/09/2013 22:27

Fab thread. I remember Polly! I grew up listening to TA, and used to really like Lucy as near to me in age. And I think we have the same birthday. But teen Lucy was annoying. Polly's death was really really sad. Didn't Caroline work at The Bull back then?

I can't stand most of the story lines now. But I will always listen I think, after a few years off in my early 20s.

Rob with his scars will turn out to be mentally ill I think. Possibly domineering, and stalky. And Helen is behaving badly - but you have to if you are having an affair. You have to lie to your nearest and dearest. It's just worrying how willing she is to do that, without nary a whisper from Rob about leaving Jess.

OliviaMMumsnet · 09/09/2013 22:32

ooh pics of the houses
You lot are terrible I am meant to be working!

lottiegarbanzo · 09/09/2013 23:01

So if Jess is in prison but they left Quebec to return to her family, she'd have to have to have been deported with a reciprocal arrangement to serve her sentence in the UK.

Why would she rather be in a prison near her parents, with Rob in Ambridge, than in Canada, where Rob could have kept his lovely job? If indeed this is a choice that can be taken. Doesn't quite seem to add up, unless deportation was automatic.

So, if she did something criminal related to his scars, drunk driving?

I'm not sure about prison. I do wonder whether, rather than being obsessed with her job and tied to looking after her father, he is looking after her and she is in some sort of institution, perhaps a secure hospital? I still think Mrs Rochester is more likely than, yet another, more or less likely, more or less criminal (Clive, Susan, Roy, Tom, Matt, Susan's other brother).

He's drawn to Helen's sensible practicality and strength and may not know about her anorexia, Greg's suicide or Pat's depression after John died. So, one would hope, that if it turns our he's treating a mentally-ill wife terribly, Helen should be outraged, disgusted and repelled.

But where's the long-term opposites attract, mega / mini dairy familial tension and fun in that?

kiriwawa · 09/09/2013 23:28

It will be too boring and repetitive if Rob has mental health issues - like Greg part 2 and I don't think I can bear Hellin whining/getting ill again.

It's a bit weird that she never talks about Greg isn't it? And his kids. Then again PatnTony's grandchild has also been forgotten after they made all that fuss.

I don't know why we expect it to be more realistic really - look at how many members if the Archers family have died in unfortunate circumstances Grin

WhatSheSaid · 10/09/2013 00:31

This is work, Olivia. You are researching the cultural interests of MNers :).

Somethingyesterday · 10/09/2013 00:44

lottie Allow me to repeat my clever selfGrin

^I did wonder about the scars...

On the one hand I don't think his complaints about her reluctance to have children would be necessary for a "prison" plot. On the other hand there was a huge amount of unnecessary stuff in the Paul story that led precisely nowhere.

Didn't Rob say he left a job he loved (in Canada) so she could look after her aged parent? She could have been in prison there - but surely she wouldn't have had time to get banged up since they arrived in England? It's entirely possible that aged parent may be looking after her....

I still think she may never actually appear - Rob will forever use her as an excuse to keep Helen in her OW place^

(Last Thursday.)

But I think I like the Jesse plot better. It would make up for the clunking "show-tunes joke" he used to woo Helen all those weeks ago.

TallGiraffe · 10/09/2013 01:03

I reckon it's going to be something v dull, I almost feel that they started off down this story without a full plan.

WipsGlitter · 10/09/2013 14:45

Am listening at work again and cannot believe Kathy does not just tell Martin to f* off and stuff his job. No one in Ambridge ever seems to struggle to find a job and you just would not put up with someone talking to you like that!

LondonMother · 10/09/2013 15:02

I'd have liked to have heard her upend a jug of custard over his head. The sound effects people could have done something very convincing so we'd all have understood exactly what was happening.

curlew · 10/09/2013 15:09

I don't understand where Martyn (bound to be with a y) gets his authority from. Why doesn't Kathy go over his head?

PigletJohn · 10/09/2013 15:36

so that the listeners can be enraged by her spinelessness and inability to deal with him.

OliviaMMumsnet · 10/09/2013 16:44

Arf at Martyn with a y
YY that is SO true about random Archer grandchild whose name I have forgotten.