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What’s wrong with my house?

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Blueysothermother · Yesterday 18:04

House been on the market since Easter, it’s in the catchment for the much sought after local grammar, well priced, was valued originally at £595,000. We had an offer for £575,750 which we accepted during the summer hols but then fell though due to reasons unrelated to the house. We need to relocate, so dropped the price, even though much larger than most houses in the surrounding streets and better parking. Estate agents can offer no constructive feedback that I can act upon. I get that it’s not all grey etc but it’s a period house and has a wealth of features intact. Any ideas?
www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/91344150

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Nitgel · Yesterday 21:57

Plus the hospital is awful for parking and costly. Is you parking permit daily?. House prices even with the catchment are dropping

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 21:58

KnickerBockerGloriously · Yesterday 21:49

OP's been there 24 years I think.

Yes I have indeed, brought my family up here, all three kids and they all went to the lovely local schools. Was really great being so close to school and town because they were able to be more independent instead of having to rely on mums taxi to meet friends, go to cinema etc.

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godmum56 · Yesterday 22:00

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 20:44

Thank you for your really usefully detailed feedback. In response the wallpaper is 300 quid a roll Sanderson so didn’t want to scrap it. Period appropriate in my mind not dated but I’ll take that on board. The art work is a curation of pieces that mean something to us and would have been created during the life span of the house and I’m definitely not parting with it and a buyer would definitely not be saddled with it on moving in.

no but you can remove some of it while you are trying to sell?

DeathBanana · Yesterday 22:00

genuinely, I’m adding these so you can see what I am seeing

I don’t expect pristine in an old house but I’d be factoring in the cost of fixing these at a minimum as well as the mismatching kitchen cupboards and worktops.

(I had the lament for Icarus on my wall when I was a teenager, nice to see him again)

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 22:01

Nitgel · Yesterday 21:57

Plus the hospital is awful for parking and costly. Is you parking permit daily?. House prices even with the catchment are dropping

its zoned permits for residents only down our streets about £40 per year and you can have up to two cars. I only have one I think maybe the second permit is a little more. Then visitors/workmen etc it’s just a few pence per hour via an app.

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WorryWife · Yesterday 22:02

Some responses about wall colour and furniture are just … walls can be painted and houses don’t come with the furniture!

The layout is a bit weird with the two attached rooms. There is a single bathroom and the downstairs toilet is tiny. There is no dedicated parking and the garden is pretty small.

But as others said it’s a very tough market, so houses just don’t move. With interests looming over 5% not a lot of people can afford to buy anymore.

DeathBanana · Yesterday 22:02

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HappyViewer · Yesterday 22:03

OP why do you think it’s not selling?

Rainbow1901 · Yesterday 22:03

Your house is coming across as full of extreme opposites. You have a very cluttered lounge with too much furniture or at least furniture that is too big for the space that it is in. Your colours are (to me) too bold or not to my taste but that wouldn't stop me as I would just redecorate.
But then your kitchen is almost minimalist but conversely too busy with clashing floors and tiles. (but tiles in that format just remind me of the London Underground!) Also given the size of your kitchen - it seems odd that the washing machine, fridge etc are in the lean to. This needs to be a proper utility room or used as a conservatory/green house not as somewhere for surplus items to be stored.
I understand the house has period features but these have not been complemented with the right furniture but has a mish mash of different furniture none of which follows a particular style.
Sorry OP, for the money I feel like I would have to spend loads to make it the way I would like it but then we all have different views and tastes. But given that you need to sell fairly quickly - I do hope it happens for you soon.

Stopsnowing · Yesterday 22:05

This is the kind of house I would buy but the photos are bad and the furnishings and decor are so ‘busy’ they are off putting. Make the beds properly, dial down the pictures on the wall, get rid of some sofas. The dark blue room is horrid - is it a dining room? It looks like a corridor…
and if you don’t actually have 4 beds don’t say you do.

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 22:05

DeathBanana · Yesterday 22:02

Oh pics didn’t add

Thank you. Very useful and fixes I can make. Except the white room, I’m not sure, was it the scuffed painted floor boards or the radiator that need fixing?

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Denim4ever · Yesterday 22:07

PressedThistle · Yesterday 18:10

Old fashioned looking living room, brightly coloured walls (especially that blue one!) and whatever is growing all over the conservatory roof would put me off for a start. You don't want to pay north of half a million and then have to sort all that stuff out.
So take the pictures down, repaint it in neutral colours and get a gardener in.

OP please don't follow this advice. I live 50 mins out of London and your house is what a terrace or semi of that age should project stylewise. If people want a home with no style or character there are plenty ruined period homes out there.

Toomuchandcantcope · Yesterday 22:07

It's beautiful.

Kitcatsm · Yesterday 22:08

We have sold two houses over the last 10 years & both have went 10% over the asking price. Everything was done on a budget & they were colourful. I think the difference was consistency of colour across the house. We removed any family photos too & had minimal art on the walls.

HinzKunz · Yesterday 22:08

your garden doesn’t look like a ‘fairy garden’ in the pictures. You need to get the photographer back if this is an actual feature. It looks overgrown and not ‘fairy garden cute’.

HappilyManFree · Yesterday 22:08

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 18:12

Ah yeah I get what you’re saying but it’s a period house so we have period furniture to match. The people that want bi-folds and sterile interiors will buy a new build and I know that.

I love the cosy living room! You’ve done it up very nicely.

godmum56 · Yesterday 22:09

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 21:36

Thank you. I’ll take the artwork off the walls, they are all clean behind and no paint fadesas all quite recently decorated, so should look ok still. Stupidly I thought people would see the fact that pictures and books do t belong to a house and they would bring their own stuff-or not!- like I do but it’s a valid point.
nothing will happen in the market until after Christmas now I think. So maybe I’ll have to reduce again after, beyond the 30K I have already.

In their heads people know this stuff, but for many/most people house buying is also about how a house makes them feel. Why would you want to do anything to put people off, especially if you are struggling to sell? My house is one massive messy arts and crafts studio and the garden is beautiful controlled wildness. Its how I like it but would make the average buyer run screaming. I know when I do sell I will need to make massive changes.

Blueysothermother · Yesterday 22:09

Toomuchandcantcope · Yesterday 22:07

It's beautiful.

Thank you! ❤️

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EarthSight · Yesterday 22:09

Yes I have ideas but you're not going to like it.

Your first offer was likely a fluke and doesn't reflect the true current value of your home. This topic comes up so often on Mumsnet that I started a thread just for it -

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/property/5406571-why-isnt-my-house-selling-is-this-you

No one wants to accept the possibility that their house has been overpriced and you've been lied to by the estate agents. Sure, maybe you can add a grand or two by tidying a place up or decorating if it's really ugly, but you're not going to achieve a 50k extra value doing that.

*Your house isn’t selling because -

a) Your estate agent is not replying to people when they should. No buyer should have to chase & chase just to ask a question or book a viewing.
b) You've entered into one of those 'modern methods of auction' contracts, which puts off a lot of buyers
c) Your house is too expensive for what people are willing to offer in your area's market.
It's usually the last one.
From tracking the market in my own area for a while now, people massively over estimate what their expensive kitchen or decor taste is worth to a buyer, when buyers might want to put their own stamp on somewhere or might want a hard floor instead carpets everywhere. A seller might love grey neutrals & modern style the house, but many buyers might think it looks clinical or prison-like. You might love your large kitchen and island, but a buyer might prefer a larger living room and think the island is a bit awkward where it is. One person's 'low maintenance garden' is another person's drab yard.

It also seems very common for sellers to underestimate how much renovation and fixing things is going to cost their buyer, so instead of reducing it by 30k compared to the general market, they reduce it only by 5k.

Don't just look at how much people are listing their houses for (they could be listed for a long time), and be aware that estate agents might inflate the realistic selling price in order to get your business. Go on GOV.UK and look at how much houses are actually completing for. There is often a few months' lag before sales prices are uploaded onto the site which is not as useful in a fast changing market, but it will give you an idea of longer term trends*

Why isn't my house selling - is this you? | Mumsnet

There's yet another one that's trending at the moment - why isn't my house selling. If you're wondering this, your house isn’t selling because - a)...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/property/5406571-why-isnt-my-house-selling-is-this-you

pinkdelight · Yesterday 22:09

WorryWife · Yesterday 22:02

Some responses about wall colour and furniture are just … walls can be painted and houses don’t come with the furniture!

The layout is a bit weird with the two attached rooms. There is a single bathroom and the downstairs toilet is tiny. There is no dedicated parking and the garden is pretty small.

But as others said it’s a very tough market, so houses just don’t move. With interests looming over 5% not a lot of people can afford to buy anymore.

But if it doesn't give people the feels, they won't wanna set foot in there. I don't feel like the poster on the previous page who laid into it, but it did make sense when they said 90s student house. There was a room exactly that blue in a skanky student house I lived in and it's what I mean about the painted floorboards too, that it doesn't feel like it's going to be nice unless you throw a ton of money at it, in which case you'd want to pay less or buy somewhere else. It's a lot of walls to paint. OP cba and neither can most families. Moving is a big enough hassle.

As for the intricacies of the parking permit - my road is just only 30 house and not one of the two perpendicular roads to us it’s actually not bad at all - that feels like a microcosm of the bigger issue. OP has lived there so long that she sees the minutiae, comparing it to two other local roads, same as she sees her style as her personal art curation, but buyers won't see or care about any of that. They just see no OSP and the aggro of having to find a space probably not right by their house, just as they see all the walls that will need to be painted and flick onto the next potential home that is cheaper or doesn't have those drawbacks.

SuddenDaredJelly · Yesterday 22:10

Its always price

The people who would want this house, todays version of you 24 years ago, they can't afford it, not at 5% interest rates. Theur wages haven't rise as much as you think the house value has. If no one can afford the house, its too expensive.

If it was well priced, it'd sell. Quickly. Honestly.

CherryKerry · Yesterday 22:10

Couple of things that jumped out at me - baskets on top of the shelves makes me question if there is enough storage. Living room looks tiny with all the sofas.

Beachcomber74 · Yesterday 22:11

Edit the cars out of the opening photo

looks gorgeous love everything apart from leather sofa which dominates and doesn’t fit the style

SleepingisanArt · Yesterday 22:13

It's been said many times before but it's the price.

I sold a house in the spring, which hadn't been decorated for at least 20 years and the kitchen was fitted in the 90s. Chain free as it was my parents home. (I hate to say it but the kitchen looked in better condition than yours despite being considerably older!) Every room needed to be redecorated, it needed a new bathroom, needed new carpets everywhere but the kitchen and appliances were solid so not an immediate priority for a new owner. I used a local, family owned agent who was prepared to show me their RightMove sales statistics. They sold 90% of the houses in the area and they were up against 6 other agencies who are all part of big chains. The agent acknowledged that the house needed redecoration but was structurally sound. He put it on the market for £10k more than he said it would sell for - that £10k allowed someone to feel they got a 'deal'.. There were 11 viewings in the first week and 8 or 9 booked for the second week. The third couple to see it viewed twice in the first week and offered £10k under the price so it sold for what the agent said it would sell for. 10 weeks later they moved in.

Study your local agents carefully, listen to the feedback above, particularly about the dodgy areas in the kitchen, downstairs toilet and not being a 4 bed and adjust the price. Personally I'd leave the bold colours but thin out some of the artwork as it's the kitchen and downstairs toilet look expensive to fix to potential buyers.

Denim4ever · Yesterday 22:13

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 21:34

OP it’s difficult to give exact examples but here are a few places near you which I think have decor which is much more appealing to a buyer. Both a bit quirky, period features, nice furniture, colour, not grey boxes. But both are immaculate, light and airy, modern touches, and the outside space looks really lovely.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/93007836#/media?id=media4&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_BUY

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/90999444#/media?id=media0&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_BUY

You are kidding? Completely different era, soulless decor with weird fireplace situation, strange white floor tiles, bed squeezed up by the window

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