Does anyone have experience of living in terraced house adjoining pub?

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I've found a house on Rightmove that I really like, but it's a terrace attached on one side to a pub.

It's a row of stone built Victorian terraces, the kind that directly front the pavement. Googling the pub (it's about 3 miles from where I live and have never been there) it's described as a locals sort of pub. It is clearly quite sports-focused as it has a big sign advertising football on the TV and the inevitable England flag out front (location a small town in north England).

The house has a fairly good garden at the back, running along the pub's outside space, there are trees and fencing separating them.

My main concern would obviously be noise, even if the walls are thick, you might get a lot of people hanging round outside talking loudly, especially in summer. Also general anti-social behaviour.

Obviously, we could view the house but unlikely to be possible to get inside at night when noise levels would be at their peak.

For context, although my husband and I used to be regular pub goers, we both gave up alcohol a few years ago, so we don't use pubs much now other than for meals or occasionally a coffee. Neither of us watch sport on TV either, so the pub wouldn't be a facility we would use. We are in the 50+ bracket and looking to downsize to a small terrace or semi.

I am interested particularly in any experiences of living in this type of house, but general opinions/considerations would also be much welcomed. Thanks!

With the type of pub it is, it would be an absolute no for me. We live close to a pub and it’s never been any bother at all (and it’s a real highlight of living here for us), and the directly adjoining houses would agree - but it’s a lovely community, family-friendly type pub with live-in owners, which really pitches itself as being a part of the neighbourhood and being considerate of neighbours, and is controlled by a brewery who have always actively emotes to take that into account when selecting new landlords.

A sports pub with outside space backing onto your garden is a whole different animal: there will be a lot more noise, especially during big sports game seasons, and even if there’s no antisocial behaviour, you will absolutely find big crowds of drinkers talking at top volume, shouting, laughing, just having a good time outside and not thinking of the neighbours, very wearing in the summer months when you just want to sit outside peacefully. If you aren’t “pub people” yourselves, you won’t even have the perk of a convenient local.

Oddly enough , I have done this twice. In Surrey lived in a caravan till DD was 5 (a metal cold box not todays park homes) both Victorian houses, they were both just outside a Surrey town,we never had any issues. No rubbish, no out of hours problems. Second one had a garden. When we moved here,east Sussex village, fairly close to the sea,I went and chatted to neighbours regarding the pub in our road, been here 14 years,no problems. Remember though, this is MN where every child has their own bedroom and bathroom. You buy what you can afford. Go and check the pub out, weekends, nights,so what you find. (Would love a picture)

Doesn't sound like a quiet country pub so avoid. It's not only noise you have to consider but cigarette smoke, privacy, security etc.

You will also get noise from early morning deliveries of beer so either end of the day there will be noise disruption.

Another thing is light pollution - assuming the pub will be well lit - this can disturb you unless you have really good black-out blinds.

Not worth the stress. Avoid. Look somewhere else.

God no. I can imagine the clientele.

Not for me. Loud noise on match days, men pissing outside.

I think Albert Tatlock did, and he always seemed rather grumpy to me, maybe that was why?

Don't. We used to live near a pub. Mostly it was okay, but I wouldn't do it again.

Don’t do it. I grew up in a similar house and it was terrible. Karaoke nights (can hear the noise through the walls if terraced). Loud drunken people leaving in the middle of the night. Also depending on the clientele we got our car smashed up by drunks from the pub on more than one occasion. I would never live next door to one again! Would rather pick a smaller house than that.

It doesn't sound suitable for you tbh. I live next to a pub. It is noisy - it has a late licence and gets rowdy at the weekend in the summer. I don't mind because it's my local. I like being able to use my own loo on a night out. 😂

But I don't complain about the noise etc because I've moved here on purpose knowing what this pub was like. I didn't move for the pub, but I priced it in. I think if you're not up for that, you're just setting yourself up for a life of aggro, and local businesses are so fragile already.

Thanks for your replies - those were the sort of problems I was expecting tp hear about.

@ComtesseDeSpair Interesting point about whether the owners live in or not!

@Nannyfannybanny I was thinking about going to check the pub out at the weekend, we could have a lemonade each and see whether we come out alive 😄
@OvernightBloats I hadn't thought of early morning deliveries - good point. I don't think light pollution from the frontage would be an issue as the pub doesn't overlook the house, they are side by side, but the garden might be floodlit.

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles I'd definitely give the house next to the Rovers Return a swerve given the range of disasters that has befallen that particular watering hole over the years 😀

Barrels are noisy, there's a lot of crashing in the early morning. And massive lorries reversing and yelling about it.

I literally don't care a button because I am deaf, so I'm the perfect neighbour for such a business. But it wakes up my guests sometimes.

I lived on the end of a row of terraces 3 doors down from a pub. I could feel the Friday night disco through the floorboards. The people outside (town square) talking and having a night out didn’t bother me though.

You might have an issue getting mortgage nowadays as adjecent to business. It seems to be quite a hassle!

The noise when those huge commercial bins full of glass bottles being emptied into the bin lorry would be hellish in addition to beer deliveries, collection of empty barrels etc. Even if the clientele aren’t rowdy they're going to be collectively loud.

I’ve stayed in a b&b next to a pub. I didn’t mind the late night activities and noise as we were on holiday. But the daily noise of deliveries etc started at the crack of dawn. I remember thinking it must be hellish to live next door to this.

I am not joined but pub is 100 yards from me. They show sports, it's a nightmare. In the summer the talk and shouting from the garden can be heard in our bedroom. We now sleep in the back. Also since tge smoking ban they are all out in the street smoking/raping.
People drinking are LOUD!
Don't get me started on the barrel rolling deliveries...

We are downsizing with the aim of paying off the mortgage and using equity to repurchase. But this is a good point regarding resale of the property, as when I retire, hopefully within the next 12 years, we would probably want to move away from this region altogether as I'm only here due to my work location. I imagine the market for the house would be either first time buyers, buy to let or downsizers so if it's hard to mortgage that might make it hard for us to sell it in the future.

Oh, no. I really hate low frequency noise and vibration. The problem with a pub is that they often change hands and you never know what might be on its future agenda even if it's sports rather than music at the moment 🙁

Yes, and my husband mentioned the typical 'long goodbyes' of drinkers at the end of the night! He's worked in pub kitchens and behind bars in his youth.

It will be hell OP!

And v hard to sell

Do not do it

Is it honestly that good a house otherwise that it's worth taking this on? I can only imagine it's a massive liability, both disturbing you from day to day and making a resale more difficult.
What's your budget, area, requirements? There must be something better out there and I'd rather spend an hour on Rightmove right now than get on with unpacking in our now house that looks like a bombs hit it.😂

Yes and never again.

The cigarette smoke from the beer garden, the screaming and shouting of drunks late at night, bottle bins being emptied after closing, vomit in my door way, urine in my door way, broke glass outside the house, fire exits left open to cool the place down in the summer meant it was incredibly noisy, smelly and very unpleasant for all the locals.

When I moved in they had an 11pm licence with no love music permitted. When I left it was midnight in the week and 2am at weekends licence with live music permitted. It was just awful.

The main requirement for me is good train/bus links to work as I don't drive and don't want to rely on my husband for lifts - this house is v. near the train station. I need to stay under £200k. I am looking for a traditional, stone built terrace - there are plenty of them in that price bracket but they're by no means all realistic for the commute to work. My only other requirement is that it must have a bath or space for one. You'd be surprised how many of those houses have just a tiny shower room, with no possibility of putting a bath in. I suffer a lot of aches and pains so a bath is a must as it's one of the few things that relieves them.

I'm avoiding being too specific about area in case it's outing - have discussed plans with work colleagues - but we are in West Yorkshire.

How sensitive to noise are you?
How sensitive to the presence of other people are you?

There is going to be noise and lots of people coming and going. Which would now drive me mental.
When I was young and stupid I lived in a ground floor flat adjoining a ground floor bar in a country without strict licensing laws. People would rest their drinks on the windowsill of my bedroom and the noise was intense. But I was about 23 and somehow lived with it.

Now I get distracted by people walking by in the grounds of the block of flats next door and dream of living at the end of a dead end road.

Well I'd love to have a look on Rightmove but I understand if you don't want to post where you're looking. No point in me looking in the whole of West Yorkshire though! Good luck. Don't think the pub-adjacent house is 'the one'.

Visit the pub when a major sports event is on and see what it’s like.

I used to live next to a sports club and the noise wasn’t bad as the clientele were mainly elderly men - but it served Indian and Thai food so the smells were overpowering. I’m Indian and I found it unbearable.