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What's the longest anyone has waited for tenants to go? We're buying.

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alrightluv · 09/08/2024 12:30

Vender has just reissued the section 21. Court next. Been going on since Feb. When we viewed tenants showed us round pointing out every little fault. Should have guessed then.
We're not desperate as still have our home. Plus other stuff going on. But curious to know if anyone has had similar? TIA

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blackcherryconserve · 12/08/2024 11:57

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 02:56

It's not their property! They rent it, until a time they can no longer rent it. That's the deal

[Edited by MNHQ at poster's request]

Just what I was going to say. It's their temporary home at best.

Tupster · 12/08/2024 12:18

Araminta1003 · 12/08/2024 10:51

Tenants who do not move but get taken to court eventually, how will they ever privately rent again? What new landlord would take them on after that?
The Government with its rules about having to be forcefully evicted is out of order. It distorts the whole rental market. The rental market should be well regulated with responsible landlords primarily and also responsible tenants.

I feel sure that there is a lot of scaremongering online, for this very reason. The vast majority of private tenants are going to be renting on the private market in the future and won't benefit from hanging on until evicted.

BlackShuck3 · 12/08/2024 12:42

Itsjustmeheretoday · 12/08/2024 03:19

It's not your home, if you want your own home then buy it. You are literally "renting" it, the clue is in the name Blush

If you live in it it's your home, that's what home means it's a place where you live, the clue is in the name

BlackShuck3 · 12/08/2024 12:42

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 02:56

It's not their property! They rent it, until a time they can no longer rent it. That's the deal

[Edited by MNHQ at poster's request]

It's where they live that means it's their home.

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 12:49

BlackShuck3 · 12/08/2024 12:42

It's where they live that means it's their home.

It's not technically theirs though is it. They live there yes, but it's the landlords property

purpleleotard2 · 12/08/2024 12:51

Araminta1003
Nice idea.
The only problem with this is that the institutional money is shy of taking on the housing market as the laws are biased in the tenants favour.
As others have stated gaining possession can take 10 months or longer. Who would invest in an enterprise with such a bad outcome? Bad tenants will laugh at the court action and spin it out as long as possible when not paying a penny in rent.
If it were a good investment then I'm sure that many 'money pots' would have been there years ago.
The only institutional investment in housing is in the student market where you are, to some extent, sure that the tenant is going to move on when the course ends
Private landlords do much to avoid the court process, I have given tenants £750 to vacate a house, as I know this is the cheapest and quickest route.

littlegrebe · 12/08/2024 12:53

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 12:49

It's not technically theirs though is it. They live there yes, but it's the landlords property

Fortunately the law doesn't make such a stark distinction. People are allowed a stable home even if they haven't been lucky enough to be in a position to buy.

housethatbuiltme · 12/08/2024 12:55

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 12:49

It's not technically theirs though is it. They live there yes, but it's the landlords property

It is their home legally which they pay for the privilege of, its not their building/land but it is their home.

It the same way you can buy a flat and even though you bought that unit you do not own the building and can only live there as long as its leased. Do you tell people who have bought flats thats its not their home?

NaiceMaker · 12/08/2024 13:19

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 02:56

It's not their property! They rent it, until a time they can no longer rent it. That's the deal

[Edited by MNHQ at poster's request]

Of course it's their home - they might not own it but it is their home.

Or do you think that people who can't afford to buy never get to have a home?

Rental laws state it is the persons home. Thankfully.

NaiceMaker · 12/08/2024 13:29

FWIW I don't think landlords should advertise a property for sale until tenants have left.

It's a shitty process for all involved, selling with tenants insitu.

But some landlords are more bothered about losing a month or two rent than making life easier for tenants and buyers.

mouseyowl · 12/08/2024 13:32

I issued a Section 21 to tenants as we were selling (they knew we were selling in a couple of years when they moved in and I did tell remind them we were selling before issuing the section 21).
They did get shitty as they wanted to buy the house and tried to resist the sale, but did leave (slightly later than the date they should, but only by a few weeks).

I had told them when they viewed the property that the house was being sold to another family member in 2 years and we were only looking for tenants that were looking for a stop-gap rather than a long term home. Still got shitty about it, seemed to think they were more entitled to buy the house, even though it was my family home
and being sold to my brother.

They turned out to be horrible to deal with, but to be fair left the home in the same condition, no tent arrears and I didn't have to take them to court.

It was horrifically stressful though as my DB and his family were homeless for a while and missed school deadlines/starts but just to say it does work out and I'm sure many tenants leave after being issued a section 21 correctly.

MotherofWhippets81 · 12/08/2024 13:34

The snobbery and distaste for 'renters' on this thread is pure MN all over.

I rent - I pay nearly £2K per month. My house (sorry not my house) is the most well maintained in the street and we had made lots of improvements that have increased the value for the LL. We're also the quietist by far.

When I moved in it was so filthy I cried. So filthy my puppy bought me a used tampon as a present.

But I'm scum apparently.

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 13:36

littlegrebe · 12/08/2024 12:53

Fortunately the law doesn't make such a stark distinction. People are allowed a stable home even if they haven't been lucky enough to be in a position to buy.

Where have I said they aren't allowed a stable home. Bloody hell.

I rented for most of my pissing life. I've been asked to leave before tenancy had ended due to the death of the landlord, I've been a HA tennant. I am just stating fact, that as a renter the property is not yours. Your home yes, but not yours.

mouseyowl · 12/08/2024 13:36

NaiceMaker · 12/08/2024 13:29

FWIW I don't think landlords should advertise a property for sale until tenants have left.

It's a shitty process for all involved, selling with tenants insitu.

But some landlords are more bothered about losing a month or two rent than making life easier for tenants and buyers.

In hindsight yes, I should have air BnB-ed the house as a holiday home as it was in a beautiful spot. But stupidly thought it would be less hassle (even though it was less money) to rent it short term and providing housing stock.
My tenants were moving from another side of the country and wanted to live in the area, get their kids into good schools and settle in before looking around for somewhere to buy, so I thought it was a naively win win.

K0OLA1D · 12/08/2024 13:38

housethatbuiltme · 12/08/2024 12:55

It is their home legally which they pay for the privilege of, its not their building/land but it is their home.

It the same way you can buy a flat and even though you bought that unit you do not own the building and can only live there as long as its leased. Do you tell people who have bought flats thats its not their home?

I don't tell anyone anything. As I have already stated.

MrsSunshine2b · 12/08/2024 13:57

Looked around the house in March, the tenants told me they were expecting a baby (already had 4 between them) and needed to move out due to lack of space.

They were supposed to be gone by end of April and we arranged completion for end of May.

End of May came around and they were still refusing to go. I ended up staying with my parents and DH stayed with a friend, most of our stuff went to storage. By end of June I was getting pretty annoyed. Owner said they hadn't paid rent in months and couldn't get another rental due to their credit rating. In the end, I believe he had to give them a deposit so they could pay 6 months upfront on a property just in order to make them leave.

Once we'd moved in we had to spend a good few weeks speaking to all the people they owed money to (energy companies, council tax, store credit, the list went on and on) to prove they no longer lived here and stop the bailiffs coming round.

EatCrow · 12/08/2024 14:06

alrightluv · 12/08/2024 11:04

The tenants are on the social housing list. They were 2nd on the list but that was ages ago.
I work with people in social housing and they get boilers etc fixed very quickly. These tenants said they haven't had anything done in years. They'd had to do things themselves.

Don't know what the deleted post said but must have been bad? Sorry that happened.

I had to rent when I left exdh (1st) and I kept the place immaculate. My landlord wasn't paying the mortgage so I had to find somewhere else but was another private so easier.

Can you explain what you mean when you say 2nd on the list? I understood people on the housing list had to bid for properties. Do you know what banding they’ve been given?

Tittyfilarious · 12/08/2024 14:17

BarbedButterfly · 09/08/2024 13:38

We are the tenants. House was sold in Feb and we are leaving end of August. We had a fixed-term for a year and landlord asked if we would leave early but didn't offer any incentive to do so and we needed time to save a deposit. I know buyers aren't happy but we will be leaving on end date.

You are the tenant that op is talking about?

alrightluv · 12/08/2024 14:41

@EatCrow no idea just what the EA told us? Probably to keep us sweet. We aren't in a major rush but would be nice to be in for Christmas. If not then what will be will be.

@Tittyfilarious no I think they were giving their point of view? We haven't complained.

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alrightluv · 12/08/2024 14:43

@MrsSunshine2b what a pain. Hope you're settled now.

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Tittyfilarious · 12/08/2024 14:45

@alrightluv ah I did wonder how they know it's because it said we are the tenants not we are tenants.

MrsSunshine2b · 12/08/2024 14:51

alrightluv · 12/08/2024 14:43

@MrsSunshine2b what a pain. Hope you're settled now.

We are, we still get a lot of red letters through the door but the bailiffs have stopped coming at least! They also trashed quite a few things in the house before leaving and took some of the things listed on the inventory (curtain poles was quite annoying!), although to be quite honest nothing they did was worse than the "home improvements" attempted by the owners before letting it out.

alrightluv · 12/08/2024 14:53

@MrsSunshine2b that's good then. I just don't get the mindset of some people?

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Soonenough · 12/08/2024 15:00

A lot of these situations could be avoided if the Council accepted the date on the eviction notice or the ending of a tenancy as proof of renters needing a home. To tell people to wait until bailiffs come is disgraceful. The renters are in limbo and the LL have to go through a long and expensive process. It is this kind of scenario that puts LL off renting to anyone on housing benefit .

alrightluv · 12/08/2024 15:15

@Soonenough it's all wrong.

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