What's the longest anyone has waited for tenants to go? We're buying.

[alrightluv]

Vender has just reissued the section 21. Court next. Been going on since Feb. When we viewed tenants showed us round pointing out every little fault. Should have guessed then.
We're not desperate as still have our home. Plus other stuff going on. But curious to know if anyone has had similar? TIA

You’re in for a long wait, then. To be able to go on the social housing list; they’ll have to wait until they are court ordered to leave, and then for bailiffs to arrive and remove them.

I’d guess at Feb/March if you’ve got a court date this year.

And who can blame them, I'd be pretty upset and belligerent if I was forced to move out of my home.

This was your response to tenants possibly wrecking the place @BlackShuck3.

It's not ok to damage someone's property. You're disgusting for saying that.

Sometimes landlords need/want to sell. It's sad if the tenants are settled, but no reason to wreck someone's property.

Our friends rented out a property and the tenants trashed the place. Our friends gave them notice as they were being antisocial and neighbours were complaining. They ripped off cupboard doors, spray painted the walls and kitchen cupboards, flooded the bathroom and worse. It was awful.

Thankfully we've been very lucky with most of our tenants.

@Itsjustmeheretoday of course it's the tenants home, for the duration of the tenancy. And to call tenants "scum" is one of the most horrible things I've ever seen on Mumsnet.
I'm glad Labour are abolishing S21 Eveictions. Rebalancing is needed.

It is their home though. I'm not defending wrecking a place obviously but when you rent a house, it's your home while you legally live there.

yes, it's a rented home. When you ask a renter at the end of a night 'how are you getting home' you know what you mean right? When the government takes someone off the homeless list because they have moved into a rental that's because they now have a home right? A home is the place where you live. You don't need to own it to have a home.

@alrightluv What you said above unfortunately tells you all you need to know. The tenants want social housing. If the tenant stays put until the bailiffs force them to leave and the tenant therefore becomes homeless, the Council will have to put them up somewhere until social housing becomes available.

If the tenant leaves any earlier than the above, the Council won't help them and there will be no social housing offered.

If the reissued Section 21 has only just been served, then you are looking at two months notice for the Section 21 to expire (October) and only at that point can the landlord apply to the courts. So, a couple of more months to get a court date and then a couple of more months for the bailiffs to action the eviction. April 2025 maybe??

Yes but not forever. It's only their home whilst in contract

Yeah that's what I said. It's still their home, which contradicts what you said.

This thread is absolutely horrific. No tenants aren’t scum. Not everyone has the ability to buy. Renting also makes this place their home for the duration. We moved overseas and rented our family home. We had a tenant move in and not pay a single penny in rent. It took us about 7 months to evict. You will need a court date, then referred to the bailiffs, then it can be a 6-8 week wait for a date. I can’t see it being much before Christmas. But given you are in a strong position and can wait I’m sure it will be fine. Suggesting that people move into social housing to have their repairs done more quickly is ridiculous. They are presumably sick of being evicted. The UK housing market is broken and we do need a recalibration.

Tenants aren't 'scum' and neither are landlords.
OP looks like the tenants are digging their heels in, even if friends of the seller. What has the seller said re dates? I'd be telling my solicitor that you want an actual date by the end of the month. But do not exchange unless vacant.
I'm a land lord and the only issue I had was with a guy who moved in, paid first months rent then never again. I started getting noise complaints about him from neighbours the second week. He only had a six month contract so I served notice two months before the end (by this time he had missed three months rent). He fortunately did move out, but damaged the walls, left all the doors and windows wide open (three sets of double doors to balconies) causing rain damage. He also took the key fob for the garage (£75 to replace).
My best tenants were students.
There's always the need for rentals. And I always keep my properties in the same condition I would expect if my kids lived there, and do repairs within 24 hours. But I also expect the same in return - tenants to treat my property with respect and leave when their contract is up.

I wouldn't touch one with sitting tenants, unless i was buying it to rent out.

Agree that "tenants are scum" is one of the worst things I've read on mumsnet. And of course it's their home even if they don't own it! Even if you own, unless you buy without a mortgage then the property technically belongs to the bank- would you say it's still not your "home"? The snobbery towards people who rent is astounding.

Anyway to answer your question OP, if they're after social housing they will need to be evicted by bailiffs, which will come after a court date which will not be set until the latest S21 has expired. As others have said, I'd expect maybe March or April 2025.

I'm a tenant, a good one. We really look after our home, have made many improvements and have a really good respectful relationship with our landlord, we'd be understandably disappointed if we had to leave, but are aware it's a possibility and would work with them for a solution that best suited everyone, I would also leave the house exactly as I'd like to find it (which incidentally isn't how it was found, but I still would out of respect for all). Calling tenants scum is absolutely hideous!

It's their home, but isn't their house. There's a distinction I feel.

Of course there is. But arguably most 'homeowners' don't own their houses either. Personally I only own 1/3 of mine at today's prices and that % could easily drop if the market changes.

Ok, it's not their property. It's not theirs, they live there, yes, so it's a home for them for a time.

My friend was asked to leave last year in August
landord did everything wrong with the section 21

She is still living in the flat and went to court recently and I think she has to be out 1st Oct as the landlord finally did things properly

So if a Tennant refuses to move or the landlord not given the correct paperwork it can easily be a year plus

Tenants who do not move but get taken to court eventually, how will they ever privately rent again? What new landlord would take them on after that?
The Government with its rules about having to be forcefully evicted is out of order. It distorts the whole rental market. The rental market should be well regulated with responsible landlords primarily and also responsible tenants.

Usually they are waiting to be housed by the council which is why they can't leave even if they wanted to. In most cases if tenants could find an affordable available private rental they would just move into it but if they can't be found and they are on a low income they have no choice but to throw themselves on the mercy of the council homelessness team.

The tenants are on the social housing list. They were 2nd on the list but that was ages ago.
I work with people in social housing and they get boilers etc fixed very quickly. These tenants said they haven't had anything done in years. They'd had to do things themselves.

Don't know what the deleted post said but must have been bad? Sorry that happened.

I had to rent when I left exdh (1st) and I kept the place immaculate. My landlord wasn't paying the mortgage so I had to find somewhere else but was another private so easier.

@PeriIsKickingMyButt yes that's it.

But that is my point, why is it OK that the Council gets to insist on forceful eviction? How expensive and traumatic for everyone concerned and not every landlord is a big rich one. Some are temporary landlords or an old granny’s type pension. The whole market is a mess and it is only getting worse because now landlords only rent to those who are professionals etc because no good landlord wants to be landed with any hint of an eviction risk. It is a vicious circle.

'The UK housing market is broken and we do need a recalibration.'

What do you think needs to be done?

Landlords are subject to a huge number of laws already. More legal restrictions will not make renting easier

I think what needs to be done is to professionalise the landlord market properly and build for that market in the first place. So loads of companies building houses and then renting them out long term and investors (including pension funds) buying the stock and the aim being for long term steady rents (and steady dividend returns) that do not rise much and are well maintained and going to people who do critical and honest jobs. The flats and houses should also be built in a green manner so energy costs are lower. I would be happy for my own pension to be invested in such a scheme.

Ten months , all done by the book. Three court dates.