Where in London will be gentrified next?

[Willow1086]

Where in London do you think will be gentrified next?

Reminds me of a fantastic documentary series (think only on you tube) ‘the tower a tale of two cities’ about aggressive Pepys estate (Lambeth?) gentrification and the effect on the local working class community. BAFTA winner. Really great thought provoking series. 2006/7??

[quote Forrestcat]@bookworm14 am not against the area, just find it odd. having said that i find the whole of that part of london a bit odd and we are also living nearby. in particular, i find the school situation pretty odd .... they are so segregated. we are leaving just because of that. this is where gentrification or london thing is weird - communities live side by side but for example everyone continues to send their kids to different places etc etc[/quote]
There is definitely an issue with the wealthiest sending their kids to private schools outside the area. That said we are very happy with DD’s primary school, which really reflects the make-up of the local community. I imagine the segregation issue gets more acute at secondary level.

Kensal Green / Rise is already gentrified. I was —stalking— looking up my old house (sold it in 2001 for £500k) and it’s value is now estimated at £1.8m

That said we are very happy with DD’s primary school, which really reflects the make-up of the local community. I imagine the segregation issue gets more acute at secondary level.

This is very common. We live in Walthamstow, which is somewhat gentrified, but very much "middle" gentrified, because if you were wealthy you would live somewhere posher. The primary schools are a lovely mix, but so far people get cold feet when they look at the secondary schools. I can already feel it in my toes, and DS is only 6. And it won't change until everyone starts sending their DC to the local state secondary but...

Hanwell is still comparatively affordable to neighbouring Ealing, where I an from.

The house I gree up in until the age of 16, we sold for £250k in 1989. Worth about 3 million now 😳

Everything around Wormwood Scrubs like Acton, Willesden etc will shoot up once the Old Oak Common Station gets closer. Plus there is a lot of 'garden estate' type housing stock that way towards the A40 which will be in demand.

Whenever Manor Park comes up in conversation it makes me remember an estate agent's advert there about 6 or 7 years ago telling people that they too could dream of moving to Romford! There's no helping the area if Romford is seen as aspirational!

FWIW, I travel through Manor Park on the bike fairly regularly and live/work in the wider area. It's ok. I can't see the shops improving much but there's some nice housing stock and green space available. There's not many amenities unless you drive.

@Fink

Whenever Manor Park comes up in conversation it makes me remember an estate agent's advert there about 6 or 7 years ago telling people that they too could dream of moving to Romford! There's no helping the area if Romford is seen as aspirational!

FWIW, I travel through Manor Park on the bike fairly regularly and live/work in the wider area. It's ok. I can't see the shops improving much but there's some nice housing stock and green space available. There's not many amenities unless you drive.

The people we bought our house from in Leytonstone 25 years ago were selling up to move to Romford. A number of other neighbours over the years have also moved there, and to Ilford. They were all lifelong E11 residents It was a bit of an aspiration for some locals back then. Looking back, all those houses were sold to young families priced out of Hackney, Brixton and Bethnal Green (as we were). Have to say, Romford and Ilford seem to have declined somewhat in that time...

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The bit of Manor Park north of the Romford road is a good bet, because it’s close to both Crossrail and green space - and is just a quick bike ride into Forest Gate “village” for the hipster amenities.

I also think East Ham will happen, within proximity of the tube and high street. But those endless rows (sorry, “avenues”) of houses between Manor Park and East Ham - not so much.

It sounds like every inch to zone 4 has gentrified at least in terms of house prices.

Would it move on to the suburbs in zone 5 & 6 next then, what do you think? These areas tend to already have the "Wilko, a Poundland, a Superdrug, an Aldi, a hardware shop or a basic street market"

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

The problem with gentrification of areas, is it's fine and dandy if the mix of upmarket and social housing is 'cheek by jowl' but otherwise you run the risk of polarising opportunities (thinking access to education and the best state school options as one example).

Yes this.

The cheek by jowl mix is exactly what is needed.

It's depressing. It used to be so much more mixed in London. No widespread segregation. Lots of 'middle' people. It needs that balance back.

Brixton

the problem will the idea of the cheek by jowl is that at the moment it feels like London is pretty polarised between the poor and the rich with those in the middle being squeezed out. So where i live you essentially have lots of people earning 100k plus i.e. the rich living next to the poor - but in practice despite living next to each other, they dont mix. the rich have no intention of mixing with those living in the estates/renters etc etc so they pick the nice private or religious schools, go to the quirky (i.e. expensive cafes), lovely restaurants etc. whilst the others go to the local library, use cheap gyms and cheap supermarkets. you can see it with the schools - two schools next to each other - one 5% free school meals (the church one) the other 45% (i.e. for the poor kids). so i almost feel like they live in totally parallel universies.

@Eyevorbig0ne

Brixton

Houses in Brixton cost in excess of £1.5m. It's gentrified.

@LaurieFairyCake

I already think Lewisham and Catford are nice. Lovely houses for 400-500k.

Agree Lewisham and Catford have done beautiful houses.

Some

I'm really intrigued by the many suggestions of Catford on this thread. Why do people think it's ripe for gentrification? Bisected by the south circular and having officially the most dismal shopping centre on the face of this earth (sorry Catford). Is there something happening there that makes people think this way.

I think New Cross is a more likely bet.

I'm not sure about new areas of gentrification. Many places on this thread have already gentrified or at least the house prices have. Tbh I think less younger people will be prepared to pay over the odds for a shoebox now & I don't blame them.

If I was a young buyer now I would want to future proof as much as possible as stamp duty makes moving £££ & it's harder to build equity. Skip a stage & buy bigger a bit further out as houses will only get more expensive.

It's depressing. It used to be so much more mixed in London. No widespread segregation. Lots of 'middle' people. It needs that balance back.

Completely agree, my London childhood & DHs was very diverse in terms of race, religious, money etc. I didn't actually become friends with someone who wasn't a 2nd gen immigrant until uni. I live where I grew up & my dc have a far more narrow experience.

My bets are: Manor Park, Barking, Seven Kings, Wood Green and Tottenham. In my opinion if Peckham can gentrify, then there is literally hope for any area.

Catford has lots of Victorian housing stock, excellent transport links and is very close or adjacent to more desirable areas that people have been priced out of (Brockley/ Forest Hill).

In my opinion if Peckham can gentrify, then there is literally hope for any area.

come on Harlow, you can do it!