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Woodseats in Sheffield - transport links not great?

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CatAndHisKit · 14/08/2020 19:12

Considering buying in that area (so far just looking on rightmove) as it's cheaper than the more trendy areas yet same sort of direction (I like Abbeydale.Ecclesall).
Houses near Fraser Rd on rightmove have 'great public transport' in decsription - but having looked on google, how ar they great? One bus route on Fraser Rd and according to schedule it's just one in 30min. For Sheffiled i'd say it's hardy great. Or am I missing something? Is it easy to walk to Abbeydale rd for may more buses (involves a bridge)?
I do need public transport.

TIA

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FleurForesight · 23/08/2020 21:41

OP, I think you need to bear in mind that some areas of Sheffield are very, very desirable, and are correspondingly very, very expensive.

As anyone who is a bit older will know, no house is ever perfect, and you need to toss things up unless you have a budget of £millions (and even then, one would probably not be satisfied!)

Everything is always a compromise. With our marital home, we wanted - within our budget - a big Victorian house, detached, big garden, parking, no main road, within walking distance of town. What we wanted didn't exist, so we had to work out which bits mattered more. Then, for us, the budget was not negotiable - so the things that really mattered were walking distance from town, parking, and space inside and out. In order to get those things, we had to abandon "Victorian", "detached", and "no main road".

Hills are a fact of life in Sheffield, OP. If you don't want to contend with hills, you are perhaps thinking of the wrong place. But perhaps try to work out what is negotiable, and what isn't?

I have always tended to buy the worst house in the best area, if all else fails. Once you are inside your house, you can make it lovely. You don't have to look at the outside of it.

Nothing will ever be perfect. Fell has given you a link to a decent house in a decent area (albeit one that has sold). I would personally choose Crookes of the available options, if I were a bit older and downsizing, but that's because I would want to be as close to the Broomhill action as possible, as well as being on a bus route. But some people might like the quieter life. The main thing is to make a decision, move, and make friends. That way, wherever you live will become your home.

CatAndHisKit · 23/08/2020 21:58

oh yes, can see it - the most important thing on any high st, haha.

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CatAndHisKit · 23/08/2020 21:59

thanks, Aragog!

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CatAndHisKit · 23/08/2020 22:07

yes, Fleur I understand all that and am trying to compromise. But as I've never been to these areas yet (I always visited the SW before), I'm gathering advice in order to see where can I compromise. The layout of the terraces is not ideal for me and when you just look at the map Walkley doesn't seem to be that great, but having listed to all the posters praising it, I 'm now thinking of compromising on the layout.

As for Crookes vs Walkley - I will know once I visit both, probably. The houses aer the same type and same budget approx, a bit bigger in HIllsborough.

I've bought twice so far, so I know all about having to compromise but it's always an extra challenge when downsizing. Sheffield is not te only area I'm considering but having recently revisited, I think I should have a go, like the vibe.
I wasn't saying I can't deal with the hills, but as many other posters asked too, depends what kind of a hill - I 'd like a moderate one or one near a bus/tram so that I have options. If I now see a house on rightmove, I'll have a closer look at how you can walk to the HIgh st and the tram - so it's all useful to know.

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Jaffapaffa · 24/08/2020 09:47

@FleurForesight

I'm afraid I couldn't enlighten you about the 52s origins, *@CatAndHisKit* as it's a while since I lived in Sheffield and it has all changed now. I used to see it while waiting for the 50 on my way home from school a long time ago

I wouldn't buy in Gleadless or Handsworth, though you'd get more for your money.

The problem with somewhere like Fraser Road is that you'd have to walk quite a long way to find anything interesting or any shops other than the usual supermarket/KFC/McD/Pets At Home combos.

I've just had a look at Rightmove. There are some decent flats in S11 (including Brincliffe, which is now pretty gentrified) - but I seem to remember Brincliffe being poor for buses (may have changed?) I think some of Brincliffe is S11 and some is S7; the S11 bit is nicer.

Only one house in S17 for that price, and it's a small renovation project in a slightly odd road that's not great for public transport (though is right on the edge of the Peak District).

The houses in S10 which fit the budget are all in Crookes. Given the combination of factors on your wish-list, I'd go for one of those. My cousin lived in Crookes for several years (she bought her first house there), and loved it. She said it was really easy to get around, and it was a short walk from her house to the bus, shops, greenery etc. It's also a pretty salubrious area - though probably best to avoid living next door to a student house...

I can't say anything about S6 as I have never lived there, and have never known anyone who does!

I wouldn't rule out Gleadless or Handsworth - two colleagues have just bought houses there in the last six months (both teachers in middle management roles, if that makes any difference!).

Yes, these areas used to be less desirable, but with prices rocketing, they may well be worth considering. And they do have good transport links. Like anywhere though, it's a question of seeing whether the 'vibe' suits you.

I'm just outside Woodseats, in a house which didn't really meet any of my original wish list - there was no way that I was ever going to live on a 1930s estate! But what sold it to me was seeing that children just left their bicycles on the pavement and didn't lock them up. I'm happy to walk a bit further to a cafe in exchange for having extremely low rates of crime - the Neighbourhood Watch newsletter has very few incidents in it!

CatAndHisKit · 24/08/2020 18:13

thanks, Jaffa!
That's my thining too - I wouldnt mind a 'meh' / boring immediate area as far as it's quite safe and transport is good and quick to a vibrant place. That's why I viewed a house in Woodseats, but transport not great there at all, specifically.
Gleadless looks like a boring suburb but I thought someone may knew it and advise on links. Also Frecheville- houses do come up there well in budget. But the way a few posters reacted I thought they maent it was a bir rough rather than just boring.

Prices rocketing for sure! I do like the look of Walkley houses but really they are small terraces with tiny gardens yet right now prices much higher than anything sold there in winter/last year. I wonder if that's temporary due to current situ and prices may come down a bit? I'm thinking might be worth selling and renting for a short while.

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CatAndHisKit · 24/08/2020 18:15

re estates - I think they are fine if you are on the edge Grin! houses tend to be solid.

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fellrunner85 · 24/08/2020 20:21

Gleadless top isn't too bad (ie Gleadless Townend tram stop sort of location) , as long as you move before secondary school. Or the schools get better, which they might if your kids are little.

Don't even think about Gleadless Valley.

fellrunner85 · 24/08/2020 20:23

prices rocketing for sure! I do like the look of Walkley houses but really they are small terraces with tiny gardens yet right now prices much higher than anything sold there in winter/last year

Walkley is getting very "cool", very quickly. The artisan shops are springing up very fast and prices rising to match.

CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 00:52

fell I don't have school aged kids, but thanks. Thought I might find somewhere cheaper but nice out of good catchment but doesn't seem the case. So in what way is it bad (the valley part), do you mean crime?

Does anyone think it's worth viewing and trying an offer in Walkley/ Crookes or is it hopeless? I do think that at the moment prices are overinflated for terraces but who knows, they may not fall by end of the year.

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AltheaVestr1t · 25/08/2020 05:48

This property is very close to your preferred area OP, in a lovely residential area, 10 minutes from Ecclesall road with cafes, buses etc. 9, Brincliffe Court, Nether Edge, S7
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72494856.html

Jaffapaffa · 25/08/2020 08:45

Property prices in Sheffield have suddenly rocketed to an incomprehensible level. I am horrified at the asking price of many - they were nowhere near this high last year.

WaynettaLob · 25/08/2020 09:01

I'd go Hillsborough
More house for your money and excellent tram service

CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 17:01

Althea that's the flat I mentioned and viewed - don't know why it's still on the site as been told they had an offer of asking price immediately - I wouldn't compete as the flat needsa bit of work doing (ripped plaster behind radiators, AND it's all electric which is more expemnsive to run) plus high-ish service charge - I'd go for it if it could 10K less.

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CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 17:03

Waymetta yes I was thiking that - the competition on Walkley houses in budge is mad, they go fo best and final which os over my budget. Are there better/worse area of Hillsborough?

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CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 17:03

*in budget

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CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 17:04

sorry, that's Waynetta.

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CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 17:04

Jaffa yes it is verging on ridiculous when a snall terrace that was 145K in Feb is now being fought over at 180.

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CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 17:09

Althea yep, just checked - it's still on as they are hoping to get even higher that the offer at asking, but I bet no one offers that so they'll go with the existing one. Location was just perfect for me, even thouugh it is a bit of a retirement block - oh well.

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AltheaVestr1t · 25/08/2020 18:48

@CatAndHisKit I know the road, it's a nice area, right next to a lovely allotment walk and just a short walk from Ecclesall road. It's a great price for the area, particular right now as properties are flying off!

AltheaVestr1t · 25/08/2020 18:53

Not sure what your maximum budget it OP, but happy to have a look. I don't know Crookes or Walkley but I do know Meersbrook/Abbeydale/Ecclesall.

AltheaVestr1t · 25/08/2020 18:57

This one is a bargain, right next to Endcliffe Park and Ecclesall Road...

AltheaVestr1t · 25/08/2020 18:58

@AltheaVestr1t

This one is a bargain, right next to Endcliffe Park and Ecclesall Road...
Oops! Link! Pinner Road, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, S11 www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-87003125.html
Ihaventgottimeforthis · 25/08/2020 18:59

Crikey I've only been away from Sheffield five years but it really HAS changed if people are saying Gleadless and Handsworth are OK but Meersbrook should be avoided (Meersbrook!)

CatAndHisKit · 25/08/2020 20:22

Althea that house in the link is let til Feb, that's why cheaper. Can't wait till winter. Yes that road was perfect not only for leafeness, little shopping area, but also the perfect bus route to the train station. But if you consider it's not freehold like the houses, and you pay close to a 1000 service charge a year, plus expensive electric heating (also lease is ok but not that long) then it's not better value than houses (also no outside space, not even communal gardens) - so to me it's worth at least 8K less and they want over now as someone already there with the asking price - I think it's great for a retired person who has extra cash. It will go down in value due to being a not very long lease, and I can't afford losing anything on a property - not my forever home.
And tbh having lived in flats before but in a house for the last 6yrs , it's just hard to see flats as same value as houses! It's really the only one I saw that I could go for as it's larger than average/ sep kitchen, but I'd feel like a compromise to an extent for the sake of the area. For others (like a single retired man maybe) it can e worth all the money.

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