Woodseats in Sheffield - transport links not great?

[CatAndHisKit]

Considering buying in that area (so far just looking on rightmove) as it's cheaper than the more trendy areas yet same sort of direction (I like Abbeydale.Ecclesall).
Houses near Fraser Rd on rightmove have 'great public transport' in decsription - but having looked on google, how ar they great? One bus route on Fraser Rd and according to schedule it's just one in 30min. For Sheffiled i'd say it's hardy great. Or am I missing something? Is it easy to walk to Abbeydale rd for may more buses (involves a bridge)?
I do need public transport.

TIA

Walkley is fantastic. Great parks, views, not far to town, good primaries, good and improving shops. I work in S11 and it was the nearest place I could afford which I liked. Hills though. Big hills!

Serafinaa, haha do you walk them? or is the bus good/frequent enough? I use train station a lot so won't be using a car to go there.

Also with Crookes and Walkley, are there no subsidence issues in those terraces?

I used to live In Hillsborough, the trams are great, one service stops top end of the train station so that would be good. The shopping area is nice and you can get out to rivelin. Hillsborough park is beautiful and has a lovely library right in the park. Downsides are some of the pubs are a bit horrible and on weekends it’s a bit of a pub crawl destination. Depending which bit of it you live in, match days are hell on earth in terms of parking and drunk blokes just pissing in the street. It’s in a valley so was hit badly by the 2007 floods so be aware of that. School catchment in hillsborough is fine for primaries, less so for secondary.

If you like Nether edge you could also look at heeley and sharrow, they’re close by and property is cheaper there, and near to bus routes, there’s also plans afoot to reopen the train station in heeley.

thanks, Madame. I thought Heeley was away from NE quite a but - is the main HIgh st there Abbeydale Rd, or is there anyother shopping area elsewhere in Heeley?
Yeah sounds like it's not for me, re Hillsborough - thank you for all the info!

Sharow is still v.expensive though - been there today! By Sharrow I understand the Endliffe park area by Ecclesall, but possibly it's much bigger than I realise.

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Sharow is still v.expensive though - been there today! By Sharrow I understand the Endliffe park area by Ecclesall, but possibly it's much bigger than I realise.

That's Hunters Bar / Sharrow Vale and yes you do pay a premium to live around there. Sharrow is more towards London Road and generally cheaper.

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Serafinaa, haha do you walk them? or is the bus good/frequent enough? I use train station a lot so won't be using a car to go there.

I drive to work but to get into the city centre id walk (30 mins downhill) and get the bus back. Bus every few minutes 95 quickest but 52 also gets you back in a slightly different route. I've not used the bus since before lockdown though so things might've changed.

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Also with Crookes and Walkley, are there no subsidence issues in those terraces?

I've never heard of anything.

thanks! I've researched the buses, the 95 is great and reasonably frequent, but for the life of me I can't see where the 52 starts in the centre - I mean closest to the station. Charles St stop seems to be for the other direction.

Well, I moved from living in flats and apartments both here and abroad, so owning even a small house has been a revelation for me! We have three bedrooms - the attic which is the biggest, main 1st floor bedroom and a third which is small, but not the tiniest box room I've ever seen. We have a cosy front room with a door that opens straight onto it, but we don't use the front door very much, most people round here use the back. The kitchen is large enough for a small dining table. The bathroom is very small and narrow but we have a bath in there (we are replacing it with a big shower). We have a little garden at the back which is all patio but we have a couple of mature trees and stuff. We have a big basement which is great for junk/storage, most round here have basements, some of which have been converted or have that potential for more space.

If you are coming from a larger type of house it will seem small, but you can get slightly bigger - look for extended properties, ones with converted basements or bigger gardens, or ones that have rooms over the ginnel. I agree I've seen a lot of lovely interiors on Rightmove recently (still get property alerts and I'm interested/nosey!) We have a an NHS worker couple next door, they work late shifts sometimes but are very quiet coming in and very pleasant. Retirees on the other side. Walls are very thick stone, can hear barely anything next door except when doors are banged accidentally. Next door once had friends round for a small party and you could hear a bit of loud drunken talking from one person. Can't hear normal talking or TV or stuff like that.

I'm personally not too bothered about Ecclesall, I think it's a bit overpriced, my DH's old boss lives there in one of the bigger Victorian villas and it's nice, good for more space but that's all really.

Walkley has a fair amount of students too, and there are definitely less students in Crookes now. I think the higher prices in Crookes are mainly down to school catchment.

Give us an update when you've looked around!

Sharrow can be quite a dangerous area, I wouldn't buy there. Walkley, Crookes and Meersbrook are all better options.

Agree with a pp that you should consider meersbrook.

Meersbrook is nearly nether edge prices now tho just saying...

Heeley has a co op and a post office, not as big a shopping place as crookes or woodseats, but it’s closer to town then there’s the retail park/lidl/b&m bargains etc a ten minute walk up chesterfield rd, or there’s the retail bit on queens rd with an asda, home bargains, b&q etc

Yeah sharrow can be a bit cheeky but then so can nether edge these days, there’s been a few shootings at the abbeydale rd end of it lately. It’s mainly idiot kids beefing with each other though, touch wood no bystanders or anyone not involved in whatever shenanigans have been affected to date. No fatalities either, in case anyone thinks i’m being flippant, just windows put through

But every area in every city has a certain amount of anti social behaviour, i’ve heard endcliffe park has been awful for it during lockdown despite hunters bar being very naice and middle class

Walkley far nicer than Meersbrook, Heeley or Sharrow IMO. Great access to lovely parks and the Rivelin Valley, plus the high street is going all upmarket with craft ale, vintage shops, smart cafes, artisanal florists and the like. House prices are rising fairly fast to match it, mind. Also less studenty and more of a community feel than Crookes, though close enough to Crookes and Broomhill for some v good pubs and restaurants.
The 95 is a quick service into town, but the tram is far faster. Depending on where in Walkley you are, it's a 5-10 min walk down the hill to Langsett or Bamforth St tram stops, and then 15 mins on the tram into town. Or 15 mins on a bike via Penistone Rd bike route.
Don't even think about getting on the 52 bus in termtime...!
95 is fast

It would help if we knew the OP's budget, might be able to suggest some other areas then.

I'd avoid Meersbrook like the plague.
Loads of antsocial behaviour, really rough, and the schools are DIRE.
Most people I know who've lived in Meersbrook have moved away, either because they are fed up of their car getting broken into, or because their child reaches school age and the panic sets in when they look round the schools.

Walkley is quite nice, good schools. Agree Crookes is lovely. Sheffield 'wisdom' is an S11, S10 or S17 postcode is optimum. If a nice house is on for a cheaper price in Sheffield, it's because the area's shit. If a nice house seems overpriced, the area's good. It's one of those places.

I agree about Meersbrook and have friends moving away too. The schools are not good and there is a bit of a homeschooling community there for that reason (which is fine in itself, but if you want schools maybe not the best). They have had more crime recently too. It can be a bit of a trap because they have very nice houses on a lower budget but I'm glad we didn't choose anything there.

Sorry to crash, but Walkley and Crookes fans, where should I be looking for a large terrace not on a ridiculously steep hill?

OP, give us your budget, and we will find you a nice house with good public transport.

I grew up in SW Sheffield (S17) and my family are all still there.

You haven't mentioned schools in your OP, so that is presumably not an issue?

What I do remember from when I was younger is that every bloody bus seemed to be a Number 52 to Crookes. The Whirlow/Dore bus was every 30 mins!

Crookes is decent. As a general rule, S10 and S11 are going to be okay.
S7 is a mixed bag - there is overspill from S11, but there are also some dodgy bits.

It would also be useful to know what else you want. I would personally find Fraser Road a bit dreary and uncharacterful - but I like being either near shops etc (in which case, I'd want to be somewhere near Ecclesall Road/Broomhill) and greenery (Whirlow, Ecclesall). Those are expensive areas, though. The bottom end of Carter Knowle Road might be a possibility?

More info needed, please!

So I live in sharrow vale and absolutely love it but we may be moving elsewhere to get a larger property now that baby number 2 is on the way. We couldn’t afford to upsize and stay in this area. What a previous poster has said about the side of sharrow vale that borders sharrow (near general cemetery) being cheaper is true and we are considering there but it gets a bit rough the closer you get to London road. We are also are looking at nether edge which is a possibility. It’s cheaper the closer you get to Abbeydale road but that again is for a reason. I would consider living in crookes or crookesmoor but you need to check the street as some are very studenty and others completely residential. I would also consider walkley. I wouldn’t consider woodseats myself. Also worth checking some of the cheaper properties in the Millhouses area and Brincliffe. I would love to live in fullford or Broomhill but too much out of our price range!

Zippy - look at Greystones, it’s lovely and really close to the shops and ‘vibe’ of ecclesall road. Only problem is it’s very competitive to get anything at the moment, houses are going 40k over, especially is they are in ecclesall primary school catchment.

Sorry to crash, but Walkley and Crookes fans, where should I be looking for a large terrace not on a ridiculously steep hill?

They don't exist. You need to get good at walking fast up hills!

Thank you for all the replies, it all really helps!

Alexander I'd love to be in Greystones, but too expensive - don't think Zippy will find anythig cheaper than where she is now (next door really).

mini yes this is exatly the type of house in Crookes / Walkley that's in my VERY modest budget. Two beds on 1st floor but one always small/tiny, then a loft bedroom that's larger- I'd much prefer two beds but both good size on same foor as the bathroom. Nice to know though that your terrace is residential, and as others say - some streets are all-student so it's great for you.

Also pleased to hear that's it's not all FTBs, and you haev retirees next door - I'm not quite in that bracket but I'm middle-aged though young ish tastes). Nether Edge seems a it of a well-to-do retirement area, though I've only been there in daytime - I don't mind tdhat, but just saying. I can only afford a flat in NE - and I had looked at one really large flat but someone offered full asking which I can't do. I thought flats are hard to sell currently! It did come with garage and a nice block too.

Madame thank you for giving me all the positives about Wlakley - the bus 95 is def the best by far. But you mention cafes / shops and I can't see many of those, just a few on what looks like the main rd - are there more in another part of it? Tram would be good but most houses in budget seem to be a bit away from it- and what with hills thats quite a distance.

Fleur maybe you can enlighten me as to where the bus 52 starts in the centre towards Crookes? I can only see that it stops n High St but tha's nowhere near the train station that I ould use a lot, sometimes with a bit of luggage. 95 is so attarctive as stops by the station but it's be ok to walk to Arundel Gate at least. The bus maps aer fiddly so poss I'm justt not seeing it.
Re more detail - indeed schools are not an issue, I'm downsizing. I like just that - greenery and shops/cafes but I can't afford Ecclesall at all, which would really suit me, or NE unless a flat - and they don't comer up often. Budget is tin, it would stretch to a 2-3bed small terrace in Walkley / Crookes, or Woodseats which isn't great (but to be fair there is a retail park near Fraser rd, and Abbeydale is close - it just has a useless rare bus). And yes, no character but I could live with that if it's an easy distance (walk/bus) to a nicer area. Budget is up to 160.

What about Gleadless/Frenchevile? that's in budget but probably not great, no much there in terns of shops and I've no idea what the traffic is like to those suburbs if using a bus. Also cheaper aer the areas to the West (Handsworth, intake) but I assume even worse.