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How to get a £500k house free

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Judy1234 · 24/07/2007 17:25

www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23405477-details/Jobless+couple+with+12+children+are+give n+a+%C2%A3500%2C000+home/article.do

OP posts:
aloha · 25/07/2007 00:32

The message that if you don't work, someone else will pick up the tab. That work is something other mugs do. That message.
And they are only young. She's 36. Plenty of people of 36 don't own their own home. Let alone an eight bedroomed home.

UnquietDad · 25/07/2007 00:32

To be honest I'd be equally shocked if their 12 children's names were Jocasta and Tarquin and Henrietta and they wore Greenpeace T-shirts and voted Lib Dem and wove their own lentils, and the eldest son was training to be an actor. The fact that they choose to live off benfits still sends out the wrong message.

MrsMarvel · 25/07/2007 00:33

Nah, Mumsnet is only for the privileged few of us who don't have enough work to do!

Tortington · 25/07/2007 00:33

she doesn't own it

expatinscotland · 25/07/2007 00:33

'That I'm prepared to give up work so I can make sure you're all ok, ready for school, fed and watered, doing your homework, ...? '

No, MrsM, that your kids are somehow more important than the kids of the working poor who pay for the lifestyle you expect the state to afford you.

That is a crock of shit.

aloha · 25/07/2007 00:33

I'm not remotely envious. I just think they have a very wrong attitude to life - that sense of entitlement, the belief that the world owes them a living. And yes, I want to give my children a different view.

Tortington · 25/07/2007 00:34

yes UD i agree - i dont think your reading my posts

Tortington · 25/07/2007 00:34

well then aloha - i think we agree

expatinscotland · 25/07/2007 00:34

Yeah, but you know, custy, she's got it for life, rent free, council tax free.

And pushed out the sprogs to accomplish this.

MrsMarvel · 25/07/2007 00:34

This woman was a book-keeper, and I'm sure when her 3-year-olds are a bit older, she'll get back to work - or did she tell you she isn't going back? Ever?

aloha · 25/07/2007 00:35

I know she doesn't own it! The point is, who can afford to own an eight bedroom house? It's not like this couple are uniquely poor in not owning their eight bedroomed house. Lots of mid-thirties couples don't own anything, and rent something a lot less grand.

Tortington · 25/07/2007 00:35

and her sprogs will amount to?....

and this is becuase?....

expatinscotland · 25/07/2007 00:35

Well, let's see, MrsM, she's married to a man who deliberately gave up work to claim benefits.

And she says she was 'born to have children', not be a book-keeper.

UnquietDad · 25/07/2007 00:36

What stops the dad from working?

expatinscotland · 25/07/2007 00:36

And my sprogs will amount to . . . ?

And this is because . . . ?

expatinscotland · 25/07/2007 00:37

UD, shelf-stacking doesn't pay enough to support 12 kids.

My husband did that for years. He moved up for rounding up trollies in the car park.

Hence, we don't have 12 kids.

aloha · 25/07/2007 00:37

I actually think you can't reform a welfare system based on an extreme case like this. Of course families with children should be housed, and have enough money to feed and clothe them, but I think this particular couple should really have had more feck about them to start with.

UnquietDad · 25/07/2007 00:38

I know, I realise he'd be earning less shelf-stacking than on benefits. But it's work, isn't it? It's not a trap like benefits. There is opportunity fir training and advancement and progression, in theory. And it's much easier to get a job when you have a job.

sparklygothkat · 25/07/2007 00:38

any supermarket job doesn't pay enough to support a family IME, Dh ended up working at ocado to get more money.

aloha · 25/07/2007 00:39

I hope her children grow up to be physicists and teachers and social workers and all manner of things. They say they encourage them to work, but with kids it's really not what you say but what you do that counts IMO.

MrsMarvel · 25/07/2007 00:39

omg! Are you people agreeing? Is that allowed? I think the sense of values of this family is imaginary, fabricated by the way the article was written and the way some people have interpreted it.

What these people are doing isn't criminal, deliberately bad etc, they just had too many kids and let's hope they get their working lives back soon and let's wish their kids well.

Over n out Cap'n.

Tortington · 25/07/2007 00:39

in general terms theinfluence of the parent is the greatest, therefore i think if your children expat are following your example. If you are helping them accomplish all they can and affording them allthe opportunities that you can, then i would (in general terms) hazzard a guess that in real terms your children could be better off becuase of the life chances that you have afforded them.

aloha · 25/07/2007 00:39

I actually don't think you should even think 'I could get more on benefits'. If you can work, then benefits aren't for you!

aloha · 25/07/2007 00:41

And it's not like they'd have to live on a shelf-stacker's wages. They'd still have benefits, only they would be contributing towards their own living expenses, and as UD says, be in a position to move onward and upward in life.

UnquietDad · 25/07/2007 00:41

And of course there shouldn't even BE jobs which pay less than benefits. The idea of Jobseeker's Allowance is that it is a short-term benefit to bridge the gap, there to provide for the basic essentials so that you don't starve while looking for a job.