How to get a £500k house free

[Judy1234]

www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23405477-details/Jobless+couple+with+12+children+are+give n+a+%C2%A3500%2C000+home/article.do

Sadly, I can see it now...

custardo their 16 year old is getting trained up to die for us. Remember that. Appreciate it.

MrsMarvel, you do realise that it is now voluntary to join the Armed Forces, no?

Yes.

She could get an advice column in a weekly. Ye gods if Kerry Katona is considered qualified....

not in my name mrs marvel.

Actually, they should contact Max Clifford. Mind you, if they started earning anything, they'd have to pay rent.

That makes it all okay then, MrsM .

'The writer has waived her fee for the benefit of the Madeline McCann fund.'

In whose name then? The population of France?

doesnt make it right though - does it - it doesnt make it right that a 16 year old boy joins the army.

i would dearly love to see the figures on how many 16 yo middle class well educated, porperly supported by their families - kids get trained up to die at 16

no, they get to fuckaround at uni and go to sandhurst first to become an officer.

this stereotyping is crass btw.

One of the commenters on the page asks "How can they justify claiming Jobseeker's Allowance when neither have the faintest intention of working for a living?" This is a good point - how DO they do that? I thought if you got that benefit - it's the one which used to be called Income Support when I were a lad, right? - you had to report regularly for check-ups to make sure you weren't being a lazy scrounging b'stard and were actually looking for a job.

And if you do nothing for three months don't they send you on some sort of course as a kick up the arse? Or am I hoplessly out of date?

Yeah, well, let's all us working poor just fuck it! Jack it in.

I'm not going to have FA pension, retirement, equity, etc., either, so why bother?

Why not just pop the sprogs and the let the government sort it out?

That's the message here.

I explained earlier how they get round it, UD, because I know folks who do.

You go to interviews and bomb them.

Income support is different to JSA, I am on income support because I can't work, due to having disabled kids. If I didn't work and my kids were NT I would be on JSA, but I don't know how JSA works tbh

Income support is harder to get if you've got NT children or you are NT or you have a partner.

But if you keep messing up in interviews, don't they look at sending you on extra training? Don't they do that anyway if you have been "out of work" (almost sounds an old-fashioned phrase, that) for a particular length of time?

I can just about remember when it used to be a bloody shame to be unemployed. People used to be embarrassed about it. We've almost gone the other way to the point where it is worn as a badge.

They do send you to extra training. And the person goes and then just does the same thing.

i dont give a fuck if GB sends themover to fight for the rights for his mates to get trillions in oil contracts - hides it by calling it a war on terror and say he's doing it in the name of mickey fucking mouse.

which isn't the issue at all on this thread.

the point i am trying to make is how the middle classes asset rich but oh so poor with the nannies and the cleaners and the au pair with the ski-ing holiday and the thai holiday and the houseboat in india holiday.. ( hardly a day trip to blackpool KwIM) can't see that they are so very very very much more fortunate than this family will ever be. Yes they may work very hard to be in that position. which is exactly my point. That family, their children and probably their childrens children will nve have te opportunities that you and i through hard work afford out children.

so to envy them?

they can have the big house an the benefits - becuase you know what - i wouldnt want that. i wouldnt want it for my children.

just all this Middle Class "how dare they" shit gets on my nerves.

It's not sending a great message to those kids, it it?

I agree c. the stereotyping is crass.

The original article was typical Evening Standard Home Counties Shock Horror at some pleb getting something for nothing.

Poking fun at the fact they are a large family is one thing, but assuming that someone should be blacklisted from the council because they cost them too much money is just a little bit extreme.

Can I just say...... she is a mum and could be on here!!!

why do you do it then expat - no pension, no equity- why?

and then think to yourself.... but that family and those children havent got that and isn't that sad - becuase i am teaching my children a different way andhopefully my children will be ever more so forunate than i.

isn't that why we do it?

Sending what message? That it takes two people to run a household of 14?

That I'm prepared to give up work so I can make sure you're all ok, ready for school, fed and watered, doing your homework, ...?

Well I'm not middle class. Haahaa. But I still think this is NO on.

Because benefits were meant to be temporary for able-bodied people and with able-bodied kids. A stop gap for people who got into a bad way or fell on hard times.

And so the message this sends is two fold.

For the working poor: what's the point of working? Why flog away? My kids have the exact same opportunities, custy, because we really are low income, so do many others on council estates with working poor parents.

For the kids of people who chose this as a lifestyle: what's the point of working? Why flog away?

Blah blah blah.

And it's a really thick person who assumes envy is at the route of all angry or outraged responses.