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Wren kitchens. Yes? No? Good? Bad?

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TheOneAndOnlyAlpha · 17/04/2013 13:52

That's it really. Has anyone had one fitted. It's either that or magnet. Any opinions would be fab. Thanks!

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Zoie25 · 01/08/2014 12:01

Hi Stella, I have paid a deposit of 720 last week but after reading all the bad press I am inclined to cancel. Where do I stand with regards to a full refund?

kmdesign · 01/08/2014 19:58

Refund depends on their T&C's. You might lose the deposit but I would honestly put it down to learning and go elsewhere. Start with local independents.

JamieGardner · 05/08/2014 15:35

Here's an insight into getting a Wren kitchen...

Where to start?

Prior to our kitchen installation (March 17th) we were told that we had to have our old kitchen ripped out ready for the delivery of the new one. We booked time off work to make sure this was done to then be told on the arrival of the kitchen fitter that he was scheduled in to do it for us. On ripping the old kitchen out a lot of plaster came off the walls along with the units, we rang Wren to try and postpone the installation date so that we could get a plasterer in first. I was told that to do this there would be a fee of £150. I decided against changing the date to save extra expense as the plasterer told us he could work around the kitchen once installed. It turned out that the fee of £150 applied to a change in delivery date, not installation date therefore the job could have been easier but I had been misinformed.

The kitchen fitter and electrician arrived on the 17th of March as scheduled but informed me that they couldn't complete the installation until the room had been plastered and the floor tiled therefore half of my kitchen was installed, most of it faulty or damaged by the kitchen fitter himself and in need of replacing anyway, for a good few months. No cooker, no washing machine and no working sink or dishwasher.

On top of this, there has been a problem with the electrician that we understood to be subcontracted by Wren. When designing the kitchen it was implied that any costs from the electrician would be minor and that he could get us items such as light bulbs at a cheaper cost yet upon arrival he gave us an invoice for £1,100. An amount that we have had looked at by numerous electricians that have said they would of quoted us less than half that cost. He has also invoiced us for work already paid for in our contract with Wren.

Another problem, quite a big one, is that the kitchen fitter cut our gas pipe for the cooker and left it uncapped. On the first day of the fitting he pointed out to me that the pipe leading to the cooker was far too long and that I needed to get a gas man in to cut it and cap it as he was not registered gas safe and therefore unable to do it himself. I said I would sort this and arranged for a gas man to come in the next morning, however, when I had left for work that day he went ahead and cut the pipe himself leaving it uncapped and dangerous as well as his actions being illegal. The gas man who came the next morning was fuming that it had been left that way as any passing gas could of been harmful to us. We also had an invoice of £60 to pay for this work, an amount which we shouldn't of had to pay as Wren should of sent somebody who is registered to do the work themselves in the first place.

I had to take time off work due to the kitchen fitter arriving 3 hours late on March 18th, this on top of the days I took off work to rip the kitchen out. Apparently he had a flat tyre but I had spoke to the account manager that morning who said that the fitter had been in touch with him and had said he was already at my house, obviously he was not. I also had to take another 2 days off work, June 9th and 10th (note that this is 4 months down the line), as I was told the kitchen fitter was returning to complete the kitchen on these dates. He never showed up and we were not informed that Wren had already organised for an alternative kitchen fitter to complete the work outstanding at a later date. Even upon sending an email to the account manager the morning of the 9th I was reassured that the work was due to be completed that day.

It is now 6 months later and my kitchen is still not complete. Upon voicing our concerns regarding the electrician to Wren, they now take no responsibility for him and claim he is not subcontracted by them. If this is the case then we do not understand why he would turn up at our door in the first place as we certainly did not get in touch with him. On top of this the work he has done is of a poor standard and has had to be rectified, it is still unfinished and his whole attitude is unacceptable. He is now threatening action in the form of debt collection or court action if we do not pay the most recent invoice of £970 (he has reduced the amount by £40 as a good will gesture).

The fact that installation is still ongoing 6 months after the start date for what was meant to take a week is appalling as well as myself and my partner having to cope without a cooker, washing machine and sink/dishwasher for over 4 months. This has all added extra expense to myself and my partner. Wren may argue that the process was slowed down due to the need for plastering and the tiling of the floor, however this could have been avoided had they not misinformed me in the first place and communicated with other members of the team.

I would never recommend Wren to anyone, upon visiting their Facebook site and reading the above posts I can see that this kind of customer service is common, I just wish I had known beforehand. Customer service has been appalling, there has been a lack of knowledge about the product and company policies and a complete disregard for the stress and inconvenience they have caused.

It now looks like we might be heading towards taking legal action as well as the electrician taking action against us, has anyone experienced it as far as this?

Boo1984 · 07/08/2014 18:05

Terrible after sales service. Wren have left us with a damaged incomplete kitchen which we try to rectify daily as the kitchen is unusable. The MD of the Oxford store has taken days to reply to emails, if replying at all. Four weeks since we received the incomplete and damaged kitchen and we still have no resolution or date for the replacements to be delivered. This just touches on the problems we are having with this company which was the final piece in a total renovation project and the only aspect of the build we have been disappointed with.

handyhuk · 15/08/2014 18:12

Horrific experience with Wren, stay away is my verdictAngry

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Munger · 16/09/2014 22:16

It is interesting to observe that on the Trustpilot website all the positive reviews for Wren are "Confirmed" by the company, yet none of the negative reviews....

If you compare that to Homebase - both positive and negative reviews are confirmed.

www.theguardian.com/money/2013/jan/26/fake-reviews-plague-consumer-websites

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andychannelle · 20/09/2014 22:32

OK. We went against the advice of our builder/fitter and chose Wren. The kitchens were just so much nicer in the showrooms, and better prices. We read all the reviews but, as almost every manufacturer has good and bad reviews, we went decided on price to go with Wren. The sales/designer in Bristol came out and measured, talked to us about how we expected to use the space, what kind of things we would be putting in their and came up with some good ideas. We made a few changes to the original spec (realised we didn't need an external door in one place) and went in for a design consultation. The design Lily (the designer) came up with looked practical, pretty and featured all the things we thought we needed. We thought about it for a few days, then put in the order (choosing to buy our own appliances with the exception of the 'free' dishwasher, because we found them slightly cheaper). A week later, we changed the order to have different worktops and added upstands - just paid the difference – and then waited for the delivery notification.
A week before the expected delivery, we were given a 'day', and a few hours before it was due to arrive, we got a call saying the truck was on the way.
All the cabinets (16 of them) arrived on time and in good condition. Halfway through the installation (by our fitter), one of the long side panels broke due to an accident. Fortunately the showroom had a spare in stock and gave it to us at no extra cost. While sorting this out, we also discovered that one of the worktops had the wrong finish. A quick call to Wren and they said a new worktop would be delivered in two weeks. Obviously our fitter would have been finished and gone by then, so the company said it would finish the fit, including plumbing in the sink and fitting upstands, splashback and hood (the latter two parts weren't even from Wren). Next day I spoke to the manager and asked whether it was possible to get the worktop to us earlier. He rang back next day and said he would try to get it to us by the end of the week. This was Monday, and on Friday (yesterday) the new, correctly finished worktop arrived by courier.
So we almost have our kitchen finished. It's beautiful, well-built and didn't cost an arm and a leg.
This is not to diminish the problems others have had, but our experience from sales to design to final product has been excellent. I would recommend them.

Notes: I registered to add this review with my real name. I have nothing to do with Wren and if you want images of the kitchen fit at its various stages, please message me. I wouldn't normally go to this effort, but the experience has been so good that I feel it's worth mentioning.

andychannelle · 21/09/2014 12:37

Also worth noting that a lot of the negative Wren reviews have comments from the company...

Munger · 22/09/2014 22:58

Quick update; Pan draw officially broke... Something else to take up with Wren. Although I will probably fix it myself as they are only likely to bodge it..

Even if you choose to believe the rare positive review and want to 'run the gauntlet' of the Wren experience, then don't buy their wooden worktops...

They have a very poor choice and are overpriced.

If you want a good choice of worktops at a reasonable price then look at;
www.worktop-express.co.uk/

roskie40 · 25/09/2014 12:44

Awful!!! Don't do it. Ordered a wardrobe in July it's now the end of September and it's still missing a part. Customer Service is awful, Managers leaving left right and centre and Head Office don't deal with complaints. AVOID AVOID AVOID.

Munger · 27/09/2014 22:15

An update on the broken pan draw.

Our pan draw collapsed on one side after ~ 2 months.... I didn't bother with Wren as they have failed to rectified all prior issues. I have taken the draw out to fix it and discovered that the runners were held in with a couple of very small screws....

If you look on the Wren web site, they describe;

  • Lifetime guarantee
  • 50kg - 500mm solid oak or premium metal soft close drawer boxes

That is a lot to ask from a couple of poorly secured 20mm screws....

The saw dust in the attached images is from the draw side scraping on the runner for the last few weeks... I have supplements the

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oldsage47 · 02/10/2014 09:48

After going to the "established" suppliers, and being horrified by not only the prices, (but the lack of good design), we are considering going to Wren Kitchens, however, after reading your "posts", we are unsure what to do.
Any ideas, for good reasonable
suppliers, (and possibly fitters), in North Dorset ??? Any advice would be greatly appreciated

wrlcaroline · 03/10/2014 13:44

My advice is do not use the company Wren, ever!!! The most appalling company I have ever had the misfortune to deal with. After paying a deposit for a kitchen costing nearly £15K they began fitting in August, now October and still not finished! Kitchen didn't fit the room (designer never bothered to visit the property to measure), fitter regularly turned up at the wrong time or day, we were expected to liaise with the worktop supplier although we had ordered it through wren, 50% of the kitchen doors/drawers were fitted but when we looked at were damage, told they would be taken away and repaired instead of new ones (direct contradiction to their T&Cs and customer charter), 19 days since second fix and they have still not hooked up our ovens, fitter tried to take a cable off our builder so he could fit the hob rather than using his own, spent 20 mins looking for the magnetic hob switch to find it thrown in the rubbish, end panel damaged, support for the worktop doesn't even reach the worktop, back missing from the sink cupboard (apparently not the first time the fitter had done this), tap leaked, told we were not allowed to make a complaint until they had finished! Diabolical customer service throughout (including from the Reading Store Manager) - ignored, promises not kept, turning up late and then spending most of the time on the phone to other colleagues/customers etc.
DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY!!!

wrlcaroline · 03/10/2014 13:48

Sorry forgot to add some of the photos just to prove the point as well!

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Clarabumps · 03/10/2014 21:12

My DP is a fitter with Wren kitchens in Glasgow and he finds them a good company to deal with. He has worked for a few of the bigger fitting companies in the area and likes working for them. It's concerning that you have all had such bad experiences with them. I hope you get it all sorted out.

Sweetone1966 · 13/10/2014 23:09

Don't use wren kitchens nightmare if it isn't bad enough awaiting parts for the kitchen which had been damaged , just had work surfaces done wren kitchens employed omg to do them , I have a large kitchen not one surface matches in colour and then to find out when I went into wren at Portsmouth the salesmen did not even order the work surface we wanted because omg did not do it so he took it upon himself to order another so we have a huge problem a surface we did not order and a surface which is all different colours .

Sweetone1966 · 13/10/2014 23:13

Managers at Portsmouth don't seem as though they want to deal with it . They don't call back . I have emailed the manager director to seek his help .

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Ian1 · 27/10/2014 14:05

I have had a kitchen delivered wrong day no paerwork etc etc.

When my fitter started to put it in place all the measurements were wrong and rather than stop work they managed to move things all around so that i have a kitchen but not as planned.

It wasnt just one wall but 3 out of 4,the extra day sitting around waiting for the kitchen has cost 300 as "their headoffice forgot to book delivery"i have spoken to the showroom and got no calls back and had to call them numerous times for a senior manager to speak to and am still waiting for a reply 6 days later.

I am a very understanding person and believe that everyone makes mistakes the true test is how they deal with them.I have been given their customer complaints e mail no reply after 4 days and an e mail for director surprise ,surprise no reply.

I will let you know how i get on so you can make up your own minds but to date the experience has been very poor and if i had the time again i would not Buy From Wren

Andyman10 · 27/10/2014 18:36

Sites like this one are so helpful when it comes to reading reviews. If you ever go on wrens facebook page you will see so many complaints it's unbelievable. Only thing is, wren soon have them removed and only keep the positive ones. Someone even recently set up a Facebook page titled 'wren kitchen disasters', and there were hundreds of people on there after just a few days. However, this page has mysteriously disappeared.
I work in the industry, not kitchens but components, and many of the DIY stores have loads of dissatisfied customers but Wren seem to be breaking records at the moment. Their staff retention rate is unbelievably poor with staff leaving on mass. I even know a couple of employees who wouldn't dare recommend Wren to any of their friends or family.
My advice is to find yourself a local independent retailer. Ask to see a portfolio of their work and ask to hold back a final payment on completion of the kitchen, perhaps the installation fee.
Best of luck to anyone who is having problems with Wren, if enough of you contact watchdog hopefully they'll be making an appearance soon.

AngryOfTring · 13/11/2014 14:53

I've also had a terrible experience with this mob. Still trying to get a kitchen fit completed over 6 months after the order was placed, and now a couple of the units which were fitted have developed faults. They don't respond to eMails or texts nor do they return landline calls. Looks like I'll have to call into their Apsley (Hemel Hempstead) store AGAIN in an attempt to move things forward.

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