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SATS results

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miccoops · 11/07/2023 09:44

For anyone interested.. the raw scores required for an age expected score (100 and above scaled score) are on this link, published today

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1087928/2022_key_stage_2_scaled_score_tables.pdf

The Reading paper was down to 24 out of 50 raw score for a age expected .. that definitely lower than previous years.. backs up the feedback that it was a challenging paper. Waiting for my sons results from school later this week..

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1087928/2022_key_stage_2_scaled_score_tables.pdf

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Heartfullofcheese · 14/07/2023 23:03

@DietrichandDiMaggio
Would they have been in line if the reading pass mark had still been 29? That’s my point…

DietrichandDiMaggio · 14/07/2023 23:47

My point was as long as they adjusted to allow for difficulty and it was the same for everyone, children didn't end up with lower scaled scores than expected.

TeenDivided · 15/07/2023 07:15

DietrichandDiMaggio · 14/07/2023 23:47

My point was as long as they adjusted to allow for difficulty and it was the same for everyone, children didn't end up with lower scaled scores than expected.

The problem in general with any paper that is 'too hard' is that less able students can get so disheartened battling it they give up before the end and don't show their ability in what is being tested.

If there is a paper that is meant to get progressively harder then a pupil may well feel if they are struggling with q1, what is the point of continuing.

PutYourBackIntoit · 15/07/2023 09:38

Any teachers here able to let me know if a school report, with 'exceeding expectations' for all subject's apart from writing, is likely to mean that he has got a score of 110 or more for reading and maths?
We have the school report, but not the sats results yet (others have, but he was at a transition day).
I'm curious as he was borderline throughout mocks, so I'll be very happy if he's managed it.

spanieleyes · 15/07/2023 10:04

Yes, that would be the inference from the level given!

PutYourBackIntoit · 15/07/2023 10:21

Thank you @spanieleyes I've made some stupid assumptions before!

When his teacher said he was not quite achieving GD in sats at the last parents evening, I was surprised as every school report we've had says he's 'exceeding' (apart from writing), and she looked at me like I was from out if space to be surprised. Then went on to explain that given it was January, she would hope he'd reach GD.

helpddplease · 15/07/2023 12:46

TeenDivided · 11/07/2023 20:06

I'm sharing my DDs results from the first year of these Sats to add balance for other parents. She got 100, 97 & 96.
Not everyone gets 110+.

Really appreciate this

DietrichandDiMaggio · 15/07/2023 14:37

PutYourBackIntoit · 15/07/2023 09:38

Any teachers here able to let me know if a school report, with 'exceeding expectations' for all subject's apart from writing, is likely to mean that he has got a score of 110 or more for reading and maths?
We have the school report, but not the sats results yet (others have, but he was at a transition day).
I'm curious as he was borderline throughout mocks, so I'll be very happy if he's managed it.

Not necessarily, unless the teacher wrote the report after the results came out, but it should be the level that the teacher assessed them to be working at. It would however mean that they have been working at that level in class, probably have scored over 110 scaled in practice tests and would reasonably expect to achieve that in the actual SATS. Had the teacher assessed them at working at expected standard, they shouldn't change that just because they performed better than expected.

olympicsbaby · 15/07/2023 14:59

Can anyone tell me where I can find stats for the percentage of children who scored 'over 105' I'm the sats? I have the data for 'over 100' and for over 110 but im interested to understand where my child sits in terms of his marks (105 reading, 106 grammar, punc, spelling and 108 maths). Appreciate its over the 'expected' but not up to 'greater depth'. Thanks!

flutterby1 · 15/07/2023 15:06

olympicsbaby · 15/07/2023 14:59

Can anyone tell me where I can find stats for the percentage of children who scored 'over 105' I'm the sats? I have the data for 'over 100' and for over 110 but im interested to understand where my child sits in terms of his marks (105 reading, 106 grammar, punc, spelling and 108 maths). Appreciate its over the 'expected' but not up to 'greater depth'. Thanks!

Hi I can't help with 105 or over but what are the stats % for children gaining 110 or over please?

I think 73% met the expected standard for English and maths

Feenie · 15/07/2023 15:36

Greater depth national data doesn’t come out until the autumn term. Last year, it was 28% Reading, 13% writing and 22% Maths.

Feenie · 15/07/2023 15:37

There is no data for over 105, it’s not a significant benchmark of anything.

olympicsbaby · 15/07/2023 15:40

Feenie · 15/07/2023 15:36

Greater depth national data doesn’t come out until the autumn term. Last year, it was 28% Reading, 13% writing and 22% Maths.

Is that correct? That seems very high?

Feenie · 15/07/2023 15:41

It is correct, not high to me 🤷‍♀️

DuckBushCityLimit · 15/07/2023 16:23

@olympicsbaby The mean scores for this year (and 2022) were 105 for reading, 104 for maths and 105 for SPAG, if that helps?

spanieleyes · 15/07/2023 17:09

We have 46% maths and 48% reading at 110 and over. Interestingly we were only at 72/76% at over 100!

olympicsbaby · 15/07/2023 20:49

DuckBushCityLimit · 15/07/2023 16:23

@olympicsbaby The mean scores for this year (and 2022) were 105 for reading, 104 for maths and 105 for SPAG, if that helps?

That's really helpful@ thank you!

DietrichandDiMaggio · 15/07/2023 22:41

spanieleyes · 15/07/2023 17:09

We have 46% maths and 48% reading at 110 and over. Interestingly we were only at 72/76% at over 100!

I'd be interested to know how many year 6s you have and the demographics of the cohort - almost half achieving greater depth would be very unusual in an average state school.

spanieleyes · 16/07/2023 05:11

We are a very average state school! 30% pupil premium so relatively high levels of need, 40 children per year group, 14% SEN support and an additional 3.8% EHCP. We are a Reading school- so huge focus on phonics ( over 90% reached the expected level this year) reading and comprehension. Mind you, our maths isn't shabby either 😁

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 16/07/2023 05:56

Can I brag about my autistic daughter's results here please? She got 120 for writing, 118 for reading and 114 for maths. 🤩

She also sang a solo (beautifully!) in her Y6 production, and came out of her secondary transition day to proudly announce she'd made not one, but TWO friends (her main aim for secondary school - she's been rather lonely at primary).

Every time I think I couldn't be more proud of her, she goes and proves me wrong.

twistyizzy · 16/07/2023 08:26

Just out of interest how many DC who achieved 110+ scores are going to grammar schools?
DD achieved over 110 for all but she is going private secondary and had some tutoring Sept-Jan for the entrance exam.
She may or may not have achieved those scores anyway without the tutoring but I'm just interested to see if there is a theme.

TeenDivided · 16/07/2023 08:39

twistyizzy · 16/07/2023 08:26

Just out of interest how many DC who achieved 110+ scores are going to grammar schools?
DD achieved over 110 for all but she is going private secondary and had some tutoring Sept-Jan for the entrance exam.
She may or may not have achieved those scores anyway without the tutoring but I'm just interested to see if there is a theme.

Is your question more 'did they have tutoring' rather than going to grammar schools? Most of the country doesn't have grammar schools, and you can benefit from tutoring even if you don't sit/pass the 11+.

HopelessEstateAgents · 16/07/2023 08:41

These tests assess acquired knowledge not aptitude, they aren't useful for anything except beating teachers with the results.

Our secondary school refuses to use them for streaming etc.

Don't indulge the government by caring about these tests.

twistyizzy · 16/07/2023 08:42

TeenDivided · 16/07/2023 08:39

Is your question more 'did they have tutoring' rather than going to grammar schools? Most of the country doesn't have grammar schools, and you can benefit from tutoring even if you don't sit/pass the 11+.

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Yes my question was around tutoring more than the grammar schools. Agree most of the country doesn't have grammars (we dont) but mumsnet is always heavily skewed with a London contingent and tutoring does seem rife.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 16/07/2023 09:09

twistyizzy · 16/07/2023 08:26

Just out of interest how many DC who achieved 110+ scores are going to grammar schools?
DD achieved over 110 for all but she is going private secondary and had some tutoring Sept-Jan for the entrance exam.
She may or may not have achieved those scores anyway without the tutoring but I'm just interested to see if there is a theme.

DD is going to a very average secondary - which we choose because the kids all seem really happy there.

We did consider selective schools but decided it would be too much pressure. And we didn't tutor - tbh she doesn't even really get help with her homework anymore, she doesn't need it.

I do sort of wish we'd stuck her in for the 11+ (or our local equivalent) to see how she'd get on, because actually she didn't seem at all affected by any exam pressure anyway, she just got on with it. Maybe we'll see how she gets on at secondary and then re-think if necessary.